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Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? #6678851
11/29/19 12:21 PM
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So the lady said she wanted a shooting gong yesterday and I went and welded one up out if rebar and a old practice welding plate I had. Mainly going to be shooting it with the .22lrs but was kinda nervous of the possibility of a ricochet off the plate. In y'alls experience is it a valid concern or should I just not worry about it ?
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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6678854
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The copper jackets riccocet the worst in my experience. Saftey glasses should be worn shooting at close range as sometimes small fragments will come back.

EDIT- I am talking about shooting within 10 yards of the plate,that is the only time ive been hit by anything.

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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6678855
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22 should blow up on impact but... never know. If worried hang it with another chain that angles it down into the dirt.


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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6678856
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My gong sends 44 mag bullets exactly to the left or right. Leaves a streak in the dirt on both sides

Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6678866
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We hang our gongs at an angle


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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6678868
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.22 LR seem to all splatter on mine. I would expect small fragment going sideways. I like a gong to give and move with momentum never rigid mounted. I have shot a heavy gong with my Mosin Nagant using FMJ steel core but at 50 + yards and they deflect sideways depending on the side I hit.


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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6678870
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All lead 22 ammo is bad for ricochet issues. I've had a 22 ricochet off of an ash stump and hit me in the chest. It would have been more serious if it had struck me in the eye.
A heavy plate like that should be hung at an angle to direct ricochets downward.


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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: the Blak Spot] #6678884
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Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
We hang our gongs at an angle


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That is recommended by most manufacturers. Most of the hanging hardware available tilts them towards the ground. That way all splatter and any possible ricochets are directed straight down into the ground.


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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6678891
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Most targets sold for .22s are 1/4" plate small size swingers. The heavier gongs (3/8 and up) made of AR-500 or other tough stuff for centerfire pistol and rifles come with a warning against shooting them with .22s.

Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6678902
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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679647
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It looks like you have the chain welded on the front facing the shooter. That would cause the face to inclined upward bouncing the bullet/fragments upward. Chain needs to be on the back so the plate directs the fragments downward.

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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679655
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IM done shooting steel at least at closeish range. Shot a piece with a 30-06 and a chunk of jacket came straight back and hit my buddy in the gut. It didnt require surgery cause it stuck in his love handle fat but now he has a chunk of copper in him, if it would have hit him more to the center, he would have had to have a surgeon dig it out of his guts. We were 50 yards away. My kid was standing beside my buddy which both were behind me, that piece was face level to my kid when it hit my buddy. I now strictly shoot into my dirt berm. If i did ever shoot steel it would be long range...over 200 yards away with no chance of a ricochet hitting anything.

if you do shoot steel make sure it can swing freely and it is hanging at a downward angle to send all the pieces down into the dirt.


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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679668
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Angle down, swing and sufficient distance are key.

Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679717
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I've had 22 ricochet off tree bark.
Shooting at steel always makes me nervous.

Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679727
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Angle this way angle that way , doesn't matter in the end you built it and you could be responsible with the right lawyer if someone gets hurt not worth it if you ask me .jmo not legal advice


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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679773
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2010. We are at the range for shotgun training. I saw the targets and said to the entire group that those targets are dangerous and that someone is going to get hurt. Not 15 minutes later I took a ricochet to the forehead. I looked like I had just bought a 7-11. After that, they got better targets and now the only people allowed in the area are the shooters and the instructors.

Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679839
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
So the lady said she wanted a shooting gong yesterday and I went and welded one up out if rebar and a old practice welding plate I had. Mainly going to be shooting it with the .22lrs but was kinda nervous of the possibility of a ricochet off the plate. In y'alls experience is it a valid concern or should I just not worry about it ?
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safe pistol distance with good safety glasses on is 25 feet for ar500 steel minimum and you get bullet fragments back just none large enough to do much more than draw a bit of blood 50 feet might be better for her the 22 will be fine on the soft steel but much more than a pistol 9,40,45 will start to dimple the steel

make sure your steel has a slight down facing angle

22 rifle shoot 25 yards or further on steel

do not shoot steel with rifle rounds under 100 yards , definitely no green tips

it isn't that the steel tips come back it is that they dimple the steel steel with craters or dimples should not be shot or it should be long range 200+ yard steel

rifle rounds like 308 even at 300 yards will crater soft steel


Do Not shoot dimpled or cratered steel at anything less than long range

there happens to be a scar in my right leg from shooting dimpled steel oh sure got away with it shooting weak 38spl then shot a 40s&w and got half a bullet back in my leg happened to hit a crater just right
came back went through 2 layers and into my leg left a bullet shaped hole about 3/8 deep and fell out into the deep snow didn't find it , snow was a foot deep , when I got my pant leg up the blood was trickling down. impact wounds take a long tome to heal. had it not goon through 2 layers first I would have probably had to pull it out of my leg.

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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679849
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Don’t shoot at metal, regardless of the angle.


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Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679864
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Just ask anyone from Edmonton Alberta what happens to gong shooting.
Their range got shut down.

Re: Chances of ricochet off a shooting gong ? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6679887
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Female Officer here took a bullet to the gut this summer. No more steel on the range here either. Was a 9mm bullet.

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