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Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? #6680302
12/01/19 09:12 AM
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Friend of my son shot this deer on our opening weekend of gun deer season in county just south of here. They said the deer was a hermaphrodite? I didn't see the deer so have no idea if it actually had both male and female parts? or if it was a doe with antlers. They said hermaphrodite and these guys have shot plenty of deer. I have no reason to doubt them. I know I once caught what I thought was big male coon. Wasn't until I it was skinning it realized it had both parts..Of course didn't think to run get a camera and take pictures. So leaves me open to the yea-right crowd..
Either way this is an interesting deer and biggest this young man has ever shot.

Anyone ever manage to save a mount like that with the velvet on?

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Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680306
12/01/19 09:16 AM
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neighbor shot a little 8 like that last year.

dad shot a big doe one time with a bow and came home and sent me to gut and drag it home.big deer with no signs of antlers or ever havin them but was hung like a horse.was funny when i rolled her and there was the kickstand--a what the -moment for sure.









Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680311
12/01/19 09:23 AM
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I was always told that does with antlers rarely shed the velvet. I'm not sure about actually shedding the antlers though.

The deer pens at Penn State had a doe with antlers that was huge. Big bodied, big antlered deer.

I wonder if the hermaphrodite deer could breed???


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Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: elkaholic] #6680314
12/01/19 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by elkaholic
I was always told that does with antlers rarely shed the velvet. I'm not sure about actually shedding the antlers though.

The deer pens at Penn State had a doe with antlers that was huge. Big bodied, big antlered deer.

I wonder if the hermaphrodite deer could breed???

No, hermaphrodite animals cant breed.

I heard a similar report as this on the other side of the state a couple years ago. Maybe around Kewaunee

Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680324
12/01/19 09:34 AM
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My understanding is they can do a mount with the actual velvet (extra couple hundred $) by freeze drying it. Other than that if you don't want to spend the extra$ they use flocking.
Not sure if its due to social media and everybody posting bout it but it seems like alot more of them herma deer have been harvested this year.

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Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680326
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Trumps fault.no wait-we'll pin this one on kaitlyn. grin









Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680518
12/01/19 01:32 PM
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Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680546
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About 15 years ago a local kid brought me a decent 8 point to mount it didn't have any velvet on it and had the body of a buck but female sex organs. It was unusual enough it made the paper.


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Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680554
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Many years ago a guy in our group killed what we all thought was a really big doe. Then we flipped it over to gut only to find a very small kickstand and no jewels. I warned my relatively illiterate buddy about the need to wear rubber gloves to avoid an STD. He had a moment of pause then went at it.

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Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680559
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I killed what I thought was a large Doe. When I went to field dress it, I realized it was a buck with no antlers. It had no pedicels, so I suspect it never had antlers.

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Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680563
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Could've also been naturally castrated by jumping a fence or something similar.

Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680748
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I shot an antlered doe one season It had one antler on one side that was a small two point antler .We have antler restriction that make it necessary to have at least 3 points and each point must be inch or longer I did not see that it had an antler before I shot .I had saw the deer approaching and it was the larger of the two .I had no idea that it was carrying a small 2 point antler .I sot it took off and I heard it crash .As I got near it I saw the short antler .I was stunned that it was a buck and not a doe . After some confusion I put my buck tag on it the law is to put the tag on a mistaken kill of what you thought the deer was and rolled it over to gut it At that point I said to myself He is missing something .At which point I looked and saw it was a doe after all .Now I was really shocked .After all the business with the Game Warden was completed .He used common sense to deal with it he gave me another buck tag so I continue to hunt buck I tell everyone that it is the buck of a life time .I can not think I will get one more like that

Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680770
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My old boss shot a very respectable 4x4 that was a doe. It was hard horned, thought they were always in velvet. It was inspected by several game wardens and made the paper.

Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680855
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I shot a big 6 x 6 in velvet on Nov 5th in the late 80's. It's nuts were only the size of your thumb nail. I would assume that the smaller testicles had something to do with it.

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Re: Natural confusion...Buck or Doe? [Re: Macthediver] #6680880
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Buddy of mine shot one about 10 years ago, had most of
It’s velvet had no kickstand but had a set of 6 pound nuts.



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