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Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #6681661
12/02/19 08:00 PM
12/02/19 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
I sit roughly 1 mile from the third largest stockpile in the US. I won't have to worry long if one detonates......neither will anyone within a 90 mile square radius. That is roughly the blast corridor of just a single safe one.

A radius is not square.

Zim

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Zim] #6681685
12/02/19 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Zim
Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
I sit roughly 1 mile from the third largest stockpile in the US. I won't have to worry long if one detonates......neither will anyone within a 90 mile square radius. That is roughly the blast corridor of just a single safe one.

A radius is not square.

Zim


Neither is pie.

Cornbread R square.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: foxhunter52] #6681700
12/02/19 08:28 PM
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Southern Illinois
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How about a circle within a square within a triangle within a larger circle. Turning lead into gold may be possible it just ain't profitable, lol.

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Foxpaw] #6681709
12/02/19 08:40 PM
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I seem to be too obtuse to this conversation. While some consider me acute, I prefer ruggedly handsome.

Zim.

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: danny clifton] #6681764
12/02/19 09:36 PM
12/02/19 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
would an emp destroy a transfomer or just the circuit boards? computer chips and that kind of stuff. aren't most of those circuits inside a grounded metal box? isnt a metal box another word for Faraday cage?


EMP is very destructive to electronics.....all airborne planes hit would crash for instance....


High Speed/Low Drag...grin
Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: foxhunter52] #6681780
12/02/19 09:45 PM
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Southern Illinois
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I hope what ever the intended delivery system used it is secured with a sturdy knot. Where is Gordian and his knot when we need him the most?

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Diggerman] #6681804
12/02/19 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
You guys give the "hordes" too much credit, most if not all city folks will die curled up in a ball sucking their thumbs in their tiny apartments.

Yup...nobody will get any further than the gas in their tank.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Mike in A-town] #6681806
12/02/19 10:18 PM
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[/quote]

Neither is pie.

Cornbread R square.

Mike[/quote]
PI is 3.14. Write that on a piece of paper with a magic marker....turn it around and looking from the back it says PI.E


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Gary Benson] #6681848
12/02/19 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by Diggerman
You guys give the "hordes" too much credit, most if not all city folks will die curled up in a ball sucking their thumbs in their tiny apartments.

Yup...nobody will get any further than the gas in their tank.

Hunger tends to make all animals more ambitious and turns the fat and lazy into thin and fit . Now if they can survive long enough to figure out how to feed themselves some other way than taking from others is another story entirely. Heck most folks on this forum would have no idea how turn corn,soybeans ,milo , acorns ,and whole grain rice or wheat into something palatable and nutritious. We are all hunters and trappers but very few are foragers. I doubt MOST (NOT ALL )on here have even successfully started a fire using primitive techniques .

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Bigfoot] #6681862
12/03/19 12:15 AM
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I don't know who your talking to Bigfoot

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: foxhunter52] #6681874
12/03/19 01:27 AM
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I live along a river that has millions of salmon and a huge moose population , as well as beaver.I Have my own well and generator. Sled dogs, boats ,chickens, quail for eggs and meat. And bees for meed grin
Have a wood stove. Logs drift to my house every spring so easy firewood. I keep a net for fish year round. Also have the knowledge to dry meat and fish for long term storage ,and have a small garden too.
Your all welcome to my house for dinner. If you can get here.

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Gary Benson] #6681949
12/03/19 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by Diggerman
You guys give the "hordes" too much credit, most if not all city folks will die curled up in a ball sucking their thumbs in their tiny apartments.

Yup...nobody will get any further than the gas in their tank.


Well, since 95% of vehicles will not run after an actual well deployed emp or severe cmi the gas in their vehicle will not matter ..


High Speed/Low Drag...grin
Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: yukonjeff] #6681950
12/03/19 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
I live along a river that has millions of salmon and a huge moose population , as well as beaver.I Have my own well and generator. Sled dogs, boats ,chickens, quail for eggs and meat. And bees for meed grin
Have a wood stove. Logs drift to my house every spring so easy firewood. I keep a net for fish year round. Also have the knowledge to dry meat and fish for long term storage ,and have a small garden too.
Your all welcome to my house for dinner. If you can get here.


I need the map grid reference #'s..... smile

I wish I could move to a spot like that..kudos to you.


High Speed/Low Drag...grin
Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: foxhunter52] #6681959
12/03/19 07:31 AM
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I plan to just log on to T-man because all the survivors will be here..They already regularly tell me where to go..:-)

Mac


"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: foxhunter52] #6681971
12/03/19 07:56 AM
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Knew an old guy that bought up all the mules in the area when tractors first started getting a good start. He bought them cheap or had them give to him, his plan was that when the newfangled tractors didn't prove out, then people would want their mules back and would pay to get them. Problem was after the first winter they ate him out of house and home. They ate all the bark off the trees in his woods and the humane people took his investment, I think there was a flood on the mule hide market and it went south too.
Maybe a guy could get a fleet of Galloping Gooses and put small steam engines on them or a small diesel engine in them. If the starter system wouldn't work then you could just park them on a hill to start. A diesel engine will work but you might need a manual solenoid to turn the fuel on and off on the injection pump.
Bicycles will surely be a great investment.
Wonder if a guy could get a pacemaker with a hand crank?

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Zim] #6681974
12/03/19 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Zim
Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
I sit roughly 1 mile from the third largest stockpile in the US. I won't have to worry long if one detonates......neither will anyone within a 90 mile square radius. That is roughly the blast corridor of just a single safe one.

A radius is not square.

Zim




You are correct, but you can square a radius.

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: AKAjust] #6681986
12/03/19 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
Check out Survivalistboards.com

I had a discussion with a guy apparently planning on bugging out to the country . I told him it was best to stay where he was at. I told him it was people like him that were my biggest concern. Not for his safety but for me and mine.


I recall watching the news when things started falling apart in Venezuela (?) and the food shortage started the folks that lived in the country were victimize by city marauders- murder, rape, pillage, plunder.

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: oneoldboot] #6682004
12/03/19 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by oneoldboot
Originally Posted by AKAjust
Check out Survivalistboards.com

I had a discussion with a guy apparently planning on bugging out to the country . I told him it was best to stay where he was at. I told him it was people like him that were my biggest concern. Not for his safety but for me and mine.


I recall watching the news when things started falling apart in Venezuela (?) and the food shortage started the folks that lived in the country were victimize by city marauders- murder, rape, pillage, plunder.


Private gun ownership was banned in Venezuela. In America those hordes of city dwellers might make a good alternative food source for country folk.


Eh...wot?

Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: Marty] #6682047
12/03/19 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by danny clifton
would an emp destroy a transfomer or just the circuit boards? computer chips and that kind of stuff. aren't most of those circuits inside a grounded metal box? isnt a metal box another word for Faraday cage?


EMP is very destructive to electronics.....all airborne planes hit would crash for instance....



Marty, if I think of it I'll ask the avionics techs at work tonight if that applies to military aircraft, as I recall in the late 1980s on the A model UH-60 Blackhawks, we were converting all the wiring to a shielded type so a garage door opener would not bring one down [I am not making that up...]

We were having problems with the Stab actuator's driving un-commanded - which believe me is a real bad thing.
To this day, all Blackhawks have a manual slew pinkie sw. on the cyclic sticks.....

I'm almost positive that all the white tops - VH aircraft [Presidential] are all protected against EMP

I'm now curious about other military aircraft.

As for civilian FAA aircraft, yeah.... I think you are right on the money - especially since everything today is fly by wire - which I am still not sold on.

I suppose a good question would also be how would an EMP affect today's modern automobile... lots of them are fly by wire too.

*wish my 79 C-10 truck was running.... that had none of that crap which is used today.


Respect,
Big George Waters + Loki the Dog.....
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CTA [life member], NTA, FTA, FBU
Re: Nuclear EMP [Re: foxhunter52] #6682111
12/03/19 11:38 AM
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How do you protect these electronic devices, other than making a Faraday (sp?)Cage.....and exactly what is a Faraday Cage? According to most prepper/survivalist books it is simply a metal box. Would a metal sided/roofed pole barn then be a Faraday Cage???????


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