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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681563
12/02/19 05:52 PM
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Sold to them for 7 years now haven't sold yet this year i sell all green fur so my averages will be around 3 bucks less than put up hides and that is right where the average prices from nafa and fha have been for those 7 years Previously for about 30 years I shipped to nafa or fha so I have an idea how my fur grade trends For the fur from my area gfws prices are right with anyone else
ill agree they don't want mink and skunks neither does anyone else
instead of leaving fur there that you feel their screwing you on take them back and sell elsewhere


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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Prn] #6681573
12/02/19 06:07 PM
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Groney: Watcha got ?
Trapper: Ten coon.
Groney: Throw em up here.
Trapper: OK.
Groney: 4 at $20 4at $3 2 at $1
Trapper: I'll sell the 4 at $20 and take the others back sir.
Groney: NO,NO,NO - I buy em all or none !!!!
Trapper: ??? you priced the 4 at $20 why wont you buy those 4 and let me take back the others ?
Groney: I BUY THEM ALL OR NONE !!!
Trapper: So really all 10 coon are about the same and just selling the 4 at $20 is cutting your average right ?
Groney: Yeah- something like that -NEXT !!!

Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681591
12/02/19 06:26 PM
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Spot On DanN.


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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681597
12/02/19 06:31 PM
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Sold to them over the years Illinois had a father/son team that played games years ago looks like Illinois buyers are still a problem from the guys in Illinois posts, SD buyers have been great and sending it the same fur sold.well also.

Last edited by Law Dog; 12/02/19 11:14 PM.

Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681607
12/02/19 06:47 PM
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I would like to hear Plueger's opinion.


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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681608
12/02/19 06:49 PM
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I can give you Dave Pluegers opinion----
"Best thing since sliced bread"

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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: DanN] #6681616
12/02/19 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DanN
Groney: Watcha got ?
Trapper: Ten coon.
Groney: Throw em up here.
Trapper: OK.
Groney: 4 at $20 4at $3 2 at $1
Trapper: I'll sell the 4 at $20 and take the others back sir.
Groney: NO,NO,NO - I buy em all or none !!!!
Trapper: ??? you priced the 4 at $20 why wont you buy those 4 and let me take back the others ?
Groney: I BUY THEM ALL OR NONE !!!
Trapper: So really all 10 coon are about the same and just selling the 4 at $20 is cutting your average right ?
Groney: Yeah- something like that -NEXT !!!


There was just someone on here who claimed they got a similar offer to your hypothetical here, and he guy in the truck offered a little more for one of the lesser dollar coon. However I dont recall definitively that the trapper was able to sell the higher dollar coon and take back the lower dollar furs.

Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: tlguy] #6681618
12/02/19 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tlguy
Originally Posted by DanN
Groney: Watcha got ?
Trapper: Ten coon.
Groney: Throw em up here.
Trapper: OK.
Groney: 4 at $20 4at $3 2 at $1
Trapper: I'll sell the 4 at $20 and take the others back sir.
Groney: NO,NO,NO - I buy em all or none !!!!
Trapper: ??? you priced the 4 at $20 why wont you buy those 4 and let me take back the others ?
Groney: I BUY THEM ALL OR NONE !!!
Trapper: So really all 10 coon are about the same and just selling the 4 at $20 is cutting your average right ?
Groney: Yeah- something like that -NEXT !!!


There was just someone on here who claimed they got a similar offer to your hypothetical here, and he guy in the truck offered a little more for one of the lesser dollar coon. However I dont recall definitively that the trapper was able to sell the higher dollar coon and take back the lower dollar furs.



He said he took them back. Was thinking about tanning them I think.

Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681628
12/02/19 07:15 PM
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Yep, that was me. He said I had 4 hides at 5 dollars. Said I'd take those back. He offered me 8 for the biggest of the 4 and I took the other 3 back. Sold him 5 of my 8 coon and 1 muskrat for 66.75.

It was the owner himself in the truck.

Last edited by k snow; 12/02/19 07:15 PM.
Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: k snow] #6681650
12/02/19 07:42 PM
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It appearing more and more from posts that after grading ones fur there is an offer, which may be their best offer or it may be negotiable. How much negotiation does one want to do or is willing to do is one question. That is the capitalistic business world we all say we want or like. The one real disadvantage with system is that your fur is now in their vehicle and in piles many of which one can not see and one has to ask for your fur back out of the window. That can be an intimidating aspect for some.
One of the things I personally can think about and I am in a position to do so if I choose to. Lets say I have fur that would be worth $1500 in average to average plus years but in today's market it is worth $600 at the GFW truck and maybe $475 from a local buyer. If I don't like the method that GFW uses or the feeling one gets from selling within that system I am losing 20% by selling locally which is really not much when you consider that I lost 60% from normal selling seasons. I have a tendency to place way too much value on what my fur is worth at times then the value I get from trapping.

Bryce

Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681668
12/02/19 08:04 PM
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He wont be throwing any fur into his truck until he owns it if he buys around here.Lots of us dealt with fur buyers back in the day.It stays on the table until the deal is done.

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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Boco] #6681686
12/02/19 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
He wont be throwing any fur into his truck until he owns it if he buys around here.Lots of us dealt with fur buyers back in the day.It stays on the table until the deal is done.

Fur goes through a 2 foot x 2 foot windoe that is about shoulder height. Cannot see the counter atleast at 5'10" i cant see the counter.


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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681689
12/02/19 08:22 PM
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That's pure BS if he deals like that.I definitely wouldn't sell under those circumstances.I can see some big Indian choking him out if he starts throwing his fur in the truck before he owns it.LOL.
Even the HBC/NWC buyers didn't deal like that.

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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681693
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I've never seen fur disappear in the truck. You pass it thru the window yes, but then its sorted into piles you can easily see, and stays there until the deal is done. My experience, anyway.

Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681695
12/02/19 08:26 PM
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Groeny Rocks!! And remember: you heard it here first!!

Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681702
12/02/19 08:31 PM
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Seems like this is beat to death every season . The bottom line is you should know about what your fur is worth and how much less than that you will take. Who cares how the buyer wants to pile stuff as long as the end figure meets what you had in mind. If it is not the ask for more or take your fur and move on. Are we trappers or little girls? Grow some hair guys.......


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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Rat Masterson] #6681708
12/02/19 08:40 PM
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So #11, we'll put you down as a maybe. LOL

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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681711
12/02/19 08:44 PM
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DannN nailed it precisely. Itís a sketchy deal but the check has not bounced one time. It is most disrespectful transaction I have ever had to deal with. I want a many to look me in the eye and shake my hand. You stand around and pay attention and you can smell it out too.

Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681743
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Anybody who has been in this business is bound to have a lot of people who are envious of his success. We all know more than a few who have come and gone. For a business to succeed they have to be both profitable and fair or the only choice. Never sold to Groeny which means he's never been the only choice.


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Re: Whats everyones thoughts on Groeny? [Re: Hutchy] #6681785
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