Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
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yukonal
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Seriously, how important do you guys think it is, to manually pull up on, to "set" a cable or chain stake?
I threw my back out last week, setting one (and I don't go crazy when I do because of back issues). When I told a buddy about it, he said "I just let the coyotes set them for me". That makes a lot of sense to me.
Really, when a coyote...or whatever canine starts pulling on, and fighting the trap, isn't the stake going to get set anyway? Can any of you guys give an example of when failure to "set" a stake caused an animal to pull the whole rig out of the ground?
From now on, I'll "set" the stakes in loose sandy soil...just to make sure, but I don't really see the need to set the stake in clay or heavier soils.
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
[Re: yukonal]
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12/04/19 04:22 PM
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I have often wondered that same thing but set them just to make sure they'll hold.
57 years trapping. It's who I am. Every day is still as exciting as it was when I was a kid but a little more work.
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
[Re: yukonal]
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12/04/19 04:25 PM
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thedude055
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I think this one really depends on the area you are trapping. I set some of mine to make sure i found good ground. We have a good amount of dry sand here with a hard layer of clay at varying depths. If i set an anchor 12"'s and it goes in pretty easy i check to make sure it is not just sand. 12" in sand and they just pull out too easy for me to trust. Now if i am driving them and I have to get the big hammer i clip my trap on and roll. No need to test if i have a hernia or not.
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
[Re: yukonal]
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12/04/19 04:26 PM
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I only set them when the ground is questionably soft. I can tell when i drive in the pilot hole. I have never had one fail...yet. Ive had them almost dug up and some pulled out a little further than i like but not fail. I drive my anchor totally underground so if i set them i have a tag end to deal with when bedding so i only set them when i question the integrity of the dirt.
"If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
[Re: yukonal]
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12/04/19 04:50 PM
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Law Dog
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Have yet to set a fang never had one pull out yet I cut an run to save my back and yes drivers bend in frozen ground.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
[Re: yukonal]
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12/04/19 05:08 PM
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Not much for rocks here but just getting the driver out is sometimes a challenge. The weld on tip weld spot is even harder to pull.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
[Re: yukonal]
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12/04/19 05:19 PM
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Like others have said two different times this season I have lost the ends of wolf fangs I assume because they cable is getting sheared off on rocks in the ground. if I hadn't have pulled up to set it the next animal that stepped in that trap would have taken the Trap and whole thing with them still on their foot
Real name Eric The sharpest hammer in the box of crayons.
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
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Al all I do is take trap in my hand give it a little slack and pop the chain couple times to make sure I did not shear of the stake end good to go. Note get below the frozen ground or it will not set well .
Kenneth schoening
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
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Like others have said two different times this season I have lost the ends of wolf fangs I assume because they cable is getting sheared off on rocks in the ground. if I hadn't have pulled up to set it the next animal that stepped in that trap would have taken the Trap and whole thing with them still on their foot Same here except it was a super stake with a welded S hook. Gave it a good pull and the next thing I knew I was landing on my butt! First one I’ve ever used so my confidence is a bit shaken.
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
[Re: yukonal]
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12/04/19 06:29 PM
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I drove stakes in places that looked like a J when I pulled them I remember driving a stake in Missouri was like settled by a gravel pit hammer it in and either pull it right out of leave it there. Here until the hard Frost sets in the range work the best.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
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I drove stakes in places that looked like a J when I pulled them I remember driving a stake in Missouri was like settled by a gravel pit hammer it in and either pull it right out of leave it there. Here until the hard Frost sets in the range work the best. That's why I had to switch to the super stakes ends. Our ground is hard enough 1 in 4 would just bend in a J around the driver, then driver and all was stuck.
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
[Re: red mt]
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12/05/19 12:52 AM
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yukonal
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Al all I do is take trap in my hand give it a little slack and pop the chain couple times to make sure I did not shear of the stake end good to go. Note get below the frozen ground or it will not set well . I like that idea, Ken. It's either gonna pop out...or stay put.
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
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12/05/19 10:49 AM
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Something else to think on a side note for this. a lot of folks don't pull cable stakes to set just because they do not want to have the cable end poking around their set. I switched partially to chained fangs this year. I will never use cable stakes again really. I can put the anchor at any depth and then just deal with a little bit of chain. so much easier to work with. For those in harder ground i assume the super stakes are the same with chains. no fraying or cut cables on rocks and no poking in the air crap.
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Re: Setting Chain and Cable Stakes
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12/05/19 01:21 PM
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I set every stake I put in the ground. Two seconds and a quick pull is worth knowing that I'm not gonna lose my trap and catch.
When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.
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