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Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky #6682558
12/03/19 10:08 PM
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Bill Request 492 seeking to ban the use of ALL body grip traps in KY.All you Ky guys start getting the word out and contact your legislators.The antis are starting to get a toe hold in our state government

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6682560
12/03/19 10:10 PM
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Did KY elect a Democrat Governor?

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: BillyTraps] #6682561
12/03/19 10:12 PM
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yes

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6682579
12/03/19 10:28 PM
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I think this is the sign of the time IF you elect a Democrat as Gov. JMO


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Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6682582
12/03/19 10:30 PM
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All the other Rs won in Ky. Bevan stepped on the toes of the teacher unions trying to fix the pension issue and got swatted.

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6682592
12/03/19 10:37 PM
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Which one of the numb nuts put forth the bill?

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: rex123] #6682595
12/03/19 10:39 PM
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Julie Adams,republican from Jefferson co,

Last edited by Donnie Shafer; 12/03/19 10:45 PM.
Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6682610
12/03/19 10:59 PM
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Somebody should just flush that whole liberal mess of a county into the ohio and be done with it.

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683049
12/04/19 02:12 PM
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Donnie, thanks for posting this, I'll contact my State Rep and State Senator.

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683057
12/04/19 02:22 PM
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I agree with rex123. Unfortunately we have an outdoorsmen group here in KY that is as anti-trapping as the animal rights crowd. They are a constant thorn in the side of intelligent, scientific equipment and regulations that make wildlife management better for EVERYONE, not just trappers. These folk are about their interest and have used the current "critters are cuddly" tactic to put the kibosh on regulation changes that would help trappers and in turn would increase the usability and satisfaction of other outdoor enthusiasts. I haven't confirmation on my suspicions but it does fit this groups M.O. We as trappers in this state need to be cautious and intelligent about the image we put forth to the public and on public forums, like this fine establishment. We don't need pictures or quotes that can be used to misrepresent us to the uneducated or ill-informed public. What trappers consider part of the job sometimes can be misconstrued by others who don't know, especially when the narrative is being controlled by anti's. Example: what does dancing look like to a deaf person. As folks get farther removed from how things really work, i.e., butchering their own meat, removing unwanted pests, etc., our jobs as wildlife managers takes on the extra aspect as educators to the uneducated. The days of even farmers understanding about carrying capacity application applies to wildlife as well as livestock, is coming to an end. Everyone has grown up with the "Disney" mentality for so long, its the norm and has penetrated all walks of life. We have the responsibility of being our own champion or our own executioner. Hope everyone has dry dirt, tight chains, and not enough stretchers. Thanks.


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Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683075
12/04/19 02:37 PM
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Yes sir this group is responsible

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683090
12/04/19 02:58 PM
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I’m unable to determine if the intent is not for all manufactured traps and not just bodygrips, we have been trying to contact the lady that pre filed it with no return reply so far. She did not come up with this on her own. Someone is involved that doesn’t want their name on it in my opinion. It is sad when one or two people try to do an end run around the KDFWR after basically ignoring their suggestion to help trappers and landowners. This is happening in other areas of wildlife management in our state, crossbow hunting, hunter education not just trapping, but in this case it is as stated above. This has been slowly festering for several years up there. With these tactics the professional wildlife managers, KDFWR, and the KDFWR Commission are ever so slowly being rendered irrelevant. Some good wildlife management people are leaving. We’re on the cusp, if something doesn’t turn around, of seeing ALL wildlife management as we’ve known it be run by the tourism cabinet. I wonder if other states have seen similar? The other group, and I say group but it’s really just a handful that’s the problem, is certainly not beloved by the antis and they’re introducing tactics that will bite them in 10 years or so when other players enter the picture. They are very short sighted, self serving individuals.
There is quite a bit of talk about doing something about night time trespassing already. Lots of landowners and deer leases are sick of it. They should be concerned with their own public image instead of ours. I’m as conservative as you can get but one thing I’ve learned in the last few years that not everyone with an ‘R’ is necessarily a good honest person. Oddly, I’m hoping the New Democrat governor will make some needed changes up there. We’ll see. It could go from bad to worse. There’s some slimy goings on in Kentucky politics.

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Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683467
12/04/19 09:00 PM
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https://legislature.ky.gov/Pages/index.aspx Here is the link to look up your legislator in your county

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683493
12/04/19 09:17 PM
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It reads like they are trying to do away with ALL manufactured traps. Sounds a little like a guy who has a radio show here was in on this?

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683513
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It is cosponsored by Derek Lewis from south eastern ky.

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683519
12/04/19 09:47 PM
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Sorry last post on this but the sponsor of this doesn't sit on or have anything to do with anything connected to wildlife or ag. groups. She is banking, insurance and the like so where did the idea for this bill come from?

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6683667
12/05/19 12:42 AM
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We still get to vote it’s just the choices we have are no longer our “kind” or of like mindedness. We are slowly losing our freedoms in this state and country. If we don’t tap the local state reps in our area first before this session starts (January) they are likely to sandwich that in between 5000 pages of crap no one sees and then bam it’s done.
I fought and emailed over the wildlife commission and all the corruption that has puked out of there to find out that the politics rules and we better lean on the politicians pretty hard or they will vote by who is paying or pressuring them. I sure hope our fish and wildlife will get behind defeating this bill and not fold because of a few anti and the out of state deer lessors that think they should run our states game laws so we don’t interrupt their deer hunts.

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6685021
12/06/19 11:43 AM
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I hope my fellow KY trappers are being diligent about contacting their state senators and representatives about this issue. Far too many states has lost equipment usage and rights altogether to rest on the old adage "it can't happen here". Our state is not immune to the influx of non-rural and liberal people who have moved from states that have multiple large cities and are less agricultural than KY. In my own experience there has been an increase of urbanite folk who have moved to our state looking for "Mayberry". Unfortunately they bring with them the ideas and misconstrued attitudes toward farming and animals, basically they have little to no clue about how things actually work. These are the kind of people that push the AR agenda and try to rationalize ALL animals are like the alpacas they're raising in a two acre pen. Even the alpacas don't always fit their dialogue. Some of my fellow Kentuckians live by the misbelief that all is well in our state because "old Bob" down the road is a good ole boy and he'd never vote against trapping. The "old Bob" 's of this world are dying off and are being replaced by urban oriented "Robert", who has been educated in an atmosphere that doesn't include hunting and trapping and isn't real keen on knowing the where, how, and why of what he consumes. Complaining about an issue without action never accomplishes anything for the complainer, it only serves those who we're complaining about. Please contact your state senator and representative and let them know that bill request 492 isn't serving the state of KY for the best. There's just too much for us to lose to gamble on inaction.


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Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6685533
12/06/19 11:10 PM
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Is it the KY Houndsmen behind this bill?

Re: Anti Trapping legislation in Kentucky [Re: Donnie Shafer] #6685869
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Yep


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