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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6683812
12/05/19 09:02 AM
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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6683814
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My buddy and his girlfriend went to PA yesterday to hunt with a friend of there’s and he sent me a text saying the town they are staying in is the place it happened. He said most people but not all are outraged.


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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6683879
12/05/19 10:09 AM
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So now your playing minority report and arresting people for pre crime? Your already assuming these kids are going to go to the next level. Guilty first, only in America.[/quote]

Its on video, I'm not the smartest but yes they're guilty. Or does it have to go thru the courts so they are innocent at this point? ITS ON VIDEO!!! Are you thinking the video was edited?

And to others, yes human life is always above a animals life but this was ridiculous, come on man!


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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6683880
12/05/19 10:09 AM
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I been hunting, trapping and fishing most of my 66 years. I could never understand why causing a living thing to be terrified and cause it pain gives somebody pleasure. Those kind of people should be evaluated because if they enjoy doing it to animals people and kids would probably be the ultimate for them. I just dont get it.

Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6683936
12/05/19 11:03 AM
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These things worry me for another reason. If people receive extremely harsh sentences for animal cruelty, how long will it be before killing an animal in a trap is recorded and some one in authority decides it's animal cruelty?


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: PAskinner] #6683944
12/05/19 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
These things worry me for another reason. If people receive extremely harsh sentences for animal cruelty, how long will it be before killing an animal in a trap is recorded and some one in authority decides it's animal cruelty?


I believe your true sportsmans do so in a humanly way and with much respect to the animal!


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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: bass10] #6683976
12/05/19 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bass10
Originally Posted by PAskinner
These things worry me for another reason. If people receive extremely harsh sentences for animal cruelty, how long will it be before killing an animal in a trap is recorded and some one in authority decides it's animal cruelty?


I believe your true sportsmans do so in a humanly way and with much respect to the animal!

But there's many people who would still consider it cruel.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6683982
12/05/19 12:03 PM
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A difference between taking an animal for a purpose and not causing it intentional pain and suffering

Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6684032
12/05/19 01:18 PM
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I guarantee that most Animal activist would put that in the
Same category as trapping and killing a animal. This video
Is bad all the way around. Should they be punished yes
Should they spend years in jail. No



Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: PAskinner] #6684045
12/05/19 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
These things worry me for another reason. If people receive extremely harsh sentences for animal cruelty, how long will it be before killing an animal in a trap is recorded and some one in authority decides it's animal cruelty?


Because they were hunting, they won't be prosecuted as an act of animal cruelty, just like the kids that ran deer over with a snowmobile a few years ago weren't. The law keeps it separated just for that reason......for now.


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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: PAskinner] #6684080
12/05/19 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
These things worry me for another reason. If people receive extremely harsh sentences for animal cruelty, how long will it be before killing an animal in a trap is recorded and some one in authority decides it's animal cruelty?

This guy here is smart. He knows what coming.

Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6684128
12/05/19 03:36 PM
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I don't ever want to ever read on here again someone railing on someone for hitting a deer and giving a solid effort to find it which is what one should do from anyone that thinks what these 2 morons done is okay and they shouldn't be punished severely. They should be stripped of all hunting, trapping and fishing rights for life in the U.S. They just forfeited that right along with owning a firearm. For society's sake it's safer.

There is a hunter ethics problem in this case and I know where I stand on it. We all hunt or trap and I hope no one here would do what these morons did but I'm afraid I'm wrong. After reading the comments and responses I'm pretty sure in my thoughts some would have joined in and that's a he** of a sad state of affairs .Any hunter that is not outraged at this is on par with them or a relative.

Intentionally keeping a wounded animal alive for the sole purpose to torture it is sadistic plain and simple. This was not an enemy that killed and tortured other people. If you have any integrity or ethics you can see that. The deer deserved far better than that. How old are they? I think it's 17 and 18. They (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) sure should know better.

Would a mandatory military stint of 4 years straighten them out? Maybe, maybe not. They shouldn't have a choice and they don't get to stay in a safe zone either. Let's see how tough they are.

Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: Matt28] #6684130
12/05/19 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt28
Originally Posted by vermontster
Just saw a couple clips from a video on YouTube of two PA teenage boys kicking a buck after they shot it. I think they said they were out of bullets and didn’t have a knife. I don’t think I believe them. They are laughing and carrying on. I thought people like that grow up to be serial killers

I dont think people like that grow up to be serial killers. It might push them in that direction tho. Bet there's hundreds of teenagers that have done stupid stuff and aren't sieral killers.


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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6684147
12/05/19 04:18 PM
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I agree with Badger 23. Just plain wrong.

Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6684170
12/05/19 04:47 PM
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Definitely not just dispatching a down animal.

I think most of us would have found an answer to that situation , in a swift and necessary manner.
Using a lot more respect than making a video to share it.

I seen this on the news several days ago.
I breifly watched video section until i knew i didnt wish to see any more,
Finding pleasure in what happened is very disturbing, to me and many that have responded.

When you see an act like this as a parent you just gotta wonder why it happened.




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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6684182
12/05/19 05:21 PM
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I wonder what eventually happened to the deer. Was it finally killed and taken home? No way am i saying what they did was ok. Just wondering what ever happened to the deer.

Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6684189
12/05/19 05:26 PM
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My thinking anyone that does something intentionally cruel to an animal or human is not right. I read once that kids that intentionally hurt pets have issues that need to be dealt with. We had a kid outside of Laramie about 15 years ago that ran an antelope down with an ATV to the point of exhaustion. Then hooked on to it with the ATV and dragged it home and turned his dogs on it. If I remember right they committed him because of mental issues.

Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6684195
12/05/19 05:32 PM
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More than 500,000 people sign petition to bring 'maximum' punishment to men seen assaulting injured deer

https://abcnews.go.com/US/475000-people-sign-petition-bring-maximum-punishment-men/story?id=67497770

Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: Badger23] #6684206
12/05/19 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Badger23
I don't ever want to ever read on here again someone railing on someone for hitting a deer and giving a solid effort to find it which is what one should do from anyone that thinks what these 2 morons done is okay and they shouldn't be punished severely. They should be stripped of all hunting, trapping and fishing rights for life in the U.S. They just forfeited that right along with owning a firearm. For society's sake it's safer.

There is a hunter ethics problem in this case and I know where I stand on it. We all hunt or trap and I hope no one here would do what these morons did but I'm afraid I'm wrong. After reading the comments and responses I'm pretty sure in my thoughts some would have joined in and that's a he** of a sad state of affairs .Any hunter that is not outraged at this is on par with them or a relative.

Intentionally keeping a wounded animal alive for the sole purpose to torture it is sadistic plain and simple. This was not an enemy that killed and tortured other people. If you have any integrity or ethics you can see that. The deer deserved far better than that. How old are they? I think it's 17 and 18. They (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) sure should know better.

Would a mandatory military stint of 4 years straighten them out? Maybe, maybe not. They shouldn't have a choice and they don't get to stay in a safe zone either. Let's see how tough they are.

I do not condone what happened, they need they're arses whupped plain and simple. Set straight and done. I'm sick of people like you man. Strip them of not only hunting, fishing, trapping rights but also owning a firearm to protect their families and self forever. What a idiotic progressive response. They are kids, whip there (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and go from there is all that is needed, not your way of loosing all freedoms because kids did something stupid. Dang people like you, freedom gobblers are growing thick on the vine because you don't know how to deal with a problem and carry on, you just want to abolish it.


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Re: 2-teens abusing a wounded buck [Re: vermontster] #6684218
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If there is ever a red flag rule to keep guns out of the hands of mentally sick people. I hope this act qualifies. Most serial killers tortured animals when they were young.

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