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Re: Virginia turns Anti-Gun overnight with Bloomberg [Re: Finster] #6687629
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It's taking from everyone when they grab their tax cuts that run up our deficits.

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How is letting someone keep more money they earn taking from someone else?


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Originally Posted by James
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It's normal for first-generation immigrants to think the way they were raised to think. English is usually hard for them. So is the cultural change.

Jim


Do you honestly belive 3rd or 4th or 10th generation Somalis are going to integrate into the U.S and adopt the same values and culture?

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
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It's normal for first-generation immigrants to think the way they were raised to think. English is usually hard for them. So is the cultural change.

Jim


Do you honestly belive 3rd or 4th or 10th generation Somalis are going to integrate into the U.S and adopt the same values and culture?

Only a nutburger would!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Virginia turns Anti-Gun overnight with Bloomberg [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6687635
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
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It's normal for first-generation immigrants to think the way they were raised to think. English is usually hard for them. So is the cultural change.

Jim


Do you honestly belive 3rd or 4th or 10th generation Somalis are going to integrate into the U.S and adopt the same values and culture?


The rest of us, native born Americans, don't have the same values and culture--so why should we expect it from Somalis?

But yes, I do think third-generation Somalis will integrate into our culture, such as it is.

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Catch 22: For someone who claims not to read my posts, you're sure quoting and trying to insult me a lot.

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I should have said "similar" not "same".

As a kid I was taught that everyone is the same or has the same potential, I believed this into my 20s, suddenly there were all these dissimilar people around (Somalis) and they did not fit in and they acted quite strange yet I assumed that was from being new arrivals and they would figure it out soon. As time wore on it started to become clear to me people are not all the same and they do not all have the same mental capacity, I was making myself nervous as everything I had been taught was being contradicted by my life experience so I went online mainly in an effort to assure myself I was wrong in my thinking that some people are less intelligent. I found Charles Murrays book "the bell curve" and things started to make sense a bit. All of a sudden I could see that IQ varies across people groups, the average White American IQ is 100 but Somalis only had an IQ of 68. I still couldnt accept people groups could vary this much on average so I assumed IQ was probably mostly meaningless then I ran across studies that showed IQ and income correlate and those with lower IQ simply will not be able to do high functioning jobs or even rather simple jobs, if your IQ is below 83 for instance the Military will not take you.

It took me a couple years to finally come around and realize science shows people are not all the same, they do not have the same capabilities and there is a reason certain cultures have evolved the way they have. I see no reason to allow in low IQ immigrants who will not adapt to our culture or even have the mental capability to serve in the military (on average).

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IQ tests are culturally slanted. I wouldn't expect people from a truly foreign country (as opposed to Europe) to do well on American IQ tests.

I question your 68 IQ figure, and would like to know what you base that on.

All that said, I agree with cutting immigration of those who have nothing to offer our society.

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Originally Posted by James
IQ tests are culturally slanted. I wouldn't expect people from a truly foreign country (as opposed to Europe) to do well on American IQ tests.

I question your 68 IQ figure, and would like to know what you base that on.

All that said, I agree with cutting immigration of those who have nothing to offer our society.

Jim


IQ can only be culturally slanted if the test is verbal or written. IQ is the measurement of how effectively someone can solve a problem within a given time frame and you can do that without language or cultural bias, I put up a picture of an example question that will have no cultural bias.

The 68 IQ figure is actually based on Kenyan and Ethopian IQ test as they did not actually test Somalis but genetically and culturally they are similar to Ethiopians and Kenyans but Somalia was to dangerous to actually test in country.

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EDIT- forgot the link to Somali IQ study. https://www.researchgate.net/public...Intelligence_of_Somali_Refugees_in_Kenya

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Most of America is being assimilated into the black culture.


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I believe that problem is probably culturally biased; I'm not an expert, so I won't pretend I'm sure.

The whole idea of problems to be solved on paper may be foreign to Somalians.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Most of America is being assimilated into the black culture.


Going to assume you have not been to Toronto lately? Canada is not far behind.

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Please elaborate, Boco. If true, then black culture is the superior one, no?

It's refreshing to see the thread inhabited by intelligent beings.

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Toronto is already assimilated into black culture has been for 2o years at least.
What I find real funny is the young native people from up the coast(very isolated) dressing and acting like the blacks.
Not long ago everyone hated blacks now everybody wants to be black.LOL.

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Please elaborate, Boco. If true, then black culture is the superior one, no?

It's refreshing to see the thread inhabited by intelligent beings.

Jim


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Originally Posted by James
I believe that problem is probably culturally biased; I'm not an expert, so I won't pretend I'm sure.

The whole idea of problems to be solved on paper may be foreign to Somalians.

Jim


That could be true but it would not explain large IQ gaps found in other studies that have been done on university campuses nearby. Charles Murray tested on Campuses when he was working on "the bell curve" Obviously we cannot do that study as Somalia lacks universities.

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Originally Posted by 52Carl
You guys are killing me.
You have let all of the air out of my unarguably successful trouncing of Jim in debate earlier in this thread.
Now I'll likely have to start all over again. Not a huge deal, as I find him to be an easy mark.
Y'all get too emotional and slanderous in response to his words. He feeds on that. You need to stick to the facts, use logic and reason, even if he pretends not to understand.


Don't get a sprained arm from patting yourself on the back, Carl. In truth, you can't name one time you trounced me.

Don't kid yourself. Personal attacks don't count. Neither does saying you'll spit on my car. Sorry, no debate points for that. A child can do that.

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An IQ less than 70 qualifies someone for S.S. disability for mental retardation. I certainly can't speak to the question of determining IQ among different groups of people accurately. Yet even the U.N. paid for I Q research at one point. Done by a couple guys from Switzerland. When their results came back the same as every other study done the U.N. rejected it. I dont think the studies (yes multiple) are flawed. If we are going to make headway with racial tensions in this country we will HAVE to look at things the way they are and not the way we wish them to be.

Things like the smartest people in the world are Asians and Ashkenazi Jews


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Originally Posted by James
I believe that problem is probably culturally biased; I'm not an expert, so I won't pretend I'm sure.

The whole idea of problems to be solved on paper may be foreign to Somalians.

Jim


Because they’ve solved so many problems by themselves without paper?


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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by 52Carl
You guys are killing me.
You have let all of the air out of my unarguably successful trouncing of Jim in debate earlier


Don't get a sprained arm from patting yourself on the back, Carl. In truth, you can't name one time you trounced me.

Don't kid yourself. Personal attacks don't count. Neither does saying you'll spit on my car. Sorry, no debate points for that. A child can do that.

Jim


And enter the problem. It is about "trouncing" someone or "scoring points", why cant it just be a discussion of ideas and beliefs with ideas being shared freely and backed by facts/statistics?

We become so married to our beliefs that any attack on them seems like an attack on our person. We need to learn to separate our beliefs from our identity so that an attack or counter to one is no longer an affront to the other.

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