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Found out somthing about MB450 jaws #6688217
12/09/19 05:51 PM
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With about 30sec worth of grinding and a good vice they pop right into a duke 1.5 frame. So if you got some broke dukes sitting in the corner of the fur shed. You can get the jaws from MTP for like $5 a pair. So just throwing that out there


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Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688232
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I like that..will be easeir on a coon's foot.

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: beachcomber13] #6688326
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Originally Posted by beachcomber13
I like that..will be easeir on a coon's foot.


Yep, should slip right out. lol

It would be a good fox trap.

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688409
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I've always wondered about Duke 1.5 and mb450 jaws could you show how it's done if it's simple enough I may decide to make a few Duke 450s 😂🤣 but seriously


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Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688421
12/09/19 08:34 PM
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Yep, just perfect for Fox.

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688461
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Next you're gonna tell me the MB 550 jaws fit right in the Duke... never mind.

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: CGilliam] #6688481
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Originally Posted by CGilliam
Yep, just perfect for Fox.

So is a MB 450 fox only better. I will stick with the real thing.


Wish I had more time to trap....
Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: strike2x] #6688560
12/09/19 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by strike2x
Originally Posted by CGilliam
Yep, just perfect for Fox.

So is a MB 450 fox only better. I will stick with the real thing.

Saw this coming. Again the idea is ,if you just have some old muskrat traps or what ever you use Duke 1.5's for you can pop in a pair of jaws and have you a little something nicer.

And just so we're clear. I'm not saying go out and buy a bunch of Duke 1.5's take the jaws out and replace them. JUST SAYING


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Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: tlguy] #6688563
12/09/19 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tlguy
Next you're gonna tell me the MB 550 jaws fit right in the Duke... never mind.

Not sure about the 550 but would really like to see what will take 650 jaws

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Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688629
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by tlguy
Next you're gonna tell me the MB 550 jaws fit right in the Duke... never mind.

Not sure about the 550 but would really like to see what will take 650 jaws


That was my weak attempt at a joke about traps made by Duke that are knockoffs of the MB 550, but I dare not name the trap for fear of having the thread axed or being banished.

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688634
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
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With about 30sec worth of grinding and a good vice they pop right into a duke 1.5 frame. So if you got some broke dukes sitting in the corner of the fur shed. You can get the jaws from MTP for like $5 a pair. So just throwing that out there


I'm all for tinkering, but why would you run this mod when it doubled the cost of the trap?

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688643
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.... still interesting though


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Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688790
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Thanks for the idea, Wolfie.

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688964
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The Jaws that you took out of the 1 and 1/2 Duke would be perfect to laminate another one and a half Duke myself I've never felt the need to modify 1 and 1/2 Duke they are very good at holding onto Critters just the way they are

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Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689020
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I like the looks of that trap a lot. I agree the 1.5 CS Duke is good at holding but have had coon chewing issues with them as I don't always run drowners or my drowners don't always function or a coon just wont go down a drowner. I think the larger surface area would dissipate the applied force to the foot and reduce damage and space for a coon to chew. Nice work again man! Keep tinkering - you inspire all of us. God has special plans for you with your abilities and thought processes.

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689142
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If want to reduce chewing and still hold almost all of your coon a double jaw modification works pretty good but wide rounded jaws have a tendancy to let SOME coon and otter slip out

I guess i should not of said that i had NEVER felt the need to modify a 1 1/2 duke in my previous post .

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Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689183
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I took note that the man said "broken dukes" and this was a way to repair them to usable condition.

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689185
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^^^ yep! Good idea!

Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: eastwood44mag] #6689522
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So just to break this down a little more . I know for a fact about every trapper has a couple of messed up 1.5's sitting around. They got ran over,coyote pulled a jaw out,messed up jaw from the factory somthing. You have em but can't use em. And you like the wider off set jaw but you don't wanna spend time welding and grinding to laminate and offset them or heck mabye you just plain can't, mabye you don't have a welder. And you dont wanna pay somone like me to do it. And you dont wanna go dropping $16 a pop for MB450's
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As long as the frame is in decent shape ( heck even if it's been bowed out a bit you can hammer it back into shape) you can for go allll the welding and extra grinding of laminating and just drop $5 for a pair of 450 jaws . Only modification you need to do is grind the jaw tips a little . So $5 for a basically free trap at this point ,you can have a dandy little dry land trap. And before we start the whole "and actual MB450 is" WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BUILD A CHEAPER MB 450. Just putting that out there. On a side note even if we bought traps for this you can buy used duke 1.5's on the trap shed for less than half price pretty frequently. Even if we went and bout some $3 or $4 old dukes from a tail gater at a convention or off the trap shed bought the jaws and heck even new springs we still have less money in one of these than in a MB450. And where gonna get about the same effect TO A DEGREE.
Also about the only problem I've seen so far us the stock leavers on the duke don't want to ride completely up but seems like a little grinding will fix that.
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Re: Found out somthing about MB450 jaws [Re: squacks] #6689531
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Originally Posted by squacks
I took note that the man said "broken dukes" and this was a way to repair them to usable condition.

I missed that part .

Im a fan of stock dukes for just pure production coon trapping . W ith futher thought I think this mod would be great for fox especially grey fox the beefed up jaws in combination with the lighter weight frame compared to the MB 450 should be excellent for the delicate feet of those little greys good spring strength and less overall weight .

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