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300 Blackout #6688392
12/09/19 09:12 PM
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So for those who have been using this round,what do y'all think ?
Thanks !
God Bless !

Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688424
12/09/19 09:38 PM
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Doesn’t seem to leave much of a blood trail but destroys the insides of whatever game your shooting

Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688440
12/09/19 09:53 PM
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Put one together for shooting mule deer does in the orchard with the youth hunters. out of 15 deer shot, 50-120 yards all one shot done, farthest one went was 30 yards. Shooting 110 grn speer HPs. Loaded some 130 ttsx Barnes for a cow elk hunt. Long shot will be 150 yards. Overall I am more than impressed with what I have ask of it.






Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688446
12/09/19 09:59 PM
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depends what your wanting to use it for.

my dad has taken 2 deer with the one he built

I built mine first but haven't taken any deer with it yet.

both his were 110 v-max neck shot deer both dropped right there but no noticeable exit wound

the 110 vmax is I think a bit to fragile , on a neck shot it is dumping 1000 fpe into the deer's neck I find pieces on the far side under the hide but not great penetration.
some of the lighter bullets are like this on the fragile side. finding the right bullet with anything is important

I have some 110gr hot core speer soft point bullets they don't group quite as nice as the vmax but it is a half inch so still on target that I intend to try when I get a chance.

the v-max groups are an inch at 100

the rifle shoots with negligible recoil and if you have the shot placement it works well

if your trying sub sonic suppressed I don't know anything about it.

my dad is busted up back fused, neck fused , shoulder surgery , recoil makes him hurt he has taken more deer with the 300BO now 2 in 2 years than he had in the previous 10 probably.

as long as you understand it is a small case 2200-2400 fps with 110 or maybe 120s is the top end

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Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688492
12/09/19 10:51 PM
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How about 150 grainers?

Do you have to get it special throated for those?


I need a hunert yard bear and pig semi auto.

Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688498
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mine likes about everything you feed it.






Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688506
12/09/19 11:06 PM
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I have some and mine shoot 110 Hornady's suppressed 1/2 inch groups at 100 and might even do better with better optics, They also shoot 220 grain Sierra's subsonic suppressed very well. I like the 300 blackout a lot, just don't try and make it do something out of it's reach.


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Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688551
12/09/19 11:49 PM
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Ok this is interesting. Starting to wish I got a .300 over my 7.62x39 AR lol.

Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6688573
12/10/19 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Ok this is interesting. Starting to wish I got a .300 over my 7.62x39 AR lol.

Sounds like a good excuse to have multiple ARs. wink

Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Flipper 56] #6688876
12/10/19 10:46 AM
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I agree, they love 220 grain Sierra's subsonic. The perfect suppressed rifle and an awesome home defense gun.


Originally Posted by Flipper 56
I have some and mine shoot 110 Hornady's suppressed 1/2 inch groups at 100 and might even do better with better optics, They also shoot 220 grain Sierra's subsonic suppressed very well. I like the 300 blackout a lot, just don't try and make it do something out of it's reach.

Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689094
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I have shot the 300 Black out for years at hogs and deer. I hand load just because I have everything in a reloading room acquired over the past 30 years. Currently mine is on loan to a friend with 4 youth hunters under age 11. Love getting the text messages with the deer kill pictures with my gun. I have shot hundreds of hogs with the gun and the Barns TTSX is one of the best bullets to load.

Now if you want an AR that will make you go dang that's a shooter, build the 6.5 Grendal. Have to buy different mags but it is a flat shootin, animal killing beast of a small round. Only reason didn't give that to my friend is because it has a thermal on it.

Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689153
12/10/19 04:26 PM
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If you are after sub sonic shooting with a can. Yup the BO wins. For everything else you are better of with what you have or the Grendel. As far as the AR platform goes I covered my bases with the 5.56 - 6.5 Grendel and 458 SOCOM .


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Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689179
12/10/19 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Ok this is interesting. Starting to wish I got a .300 over my 7.62x39 AR lol.


if your shooting super sonic the 7.62x39 has more case capacity.
is your barrel .308 or .310?
unless your having feed issues or wanting to go sub you should be able to do more for deer sized game with the 7.62x39 than the 300bo which is 4mm shorter and skinnier

the 7.62x39 case size is close enough that the 7.62x39 can take advantage of the CFE-BLK powder that was developed for 300blackout , with that little bit of case capacity you can run high end 7.62x39 velocities.

if accuracy isn't what you wanted , it begs the question what are you using for ammo.


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Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Marty B] #6689219
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Originally Posted by Marty B
How about 150 grainers?

Do you have to get it special throated for those?


I need a hunert yard bear and pig semi auto.




the blackout is chambered so that 110 through 220 maybe even 230 or 240 will feed if you can get it in the mag it will chamber.

I have shot some 120s and a few 150s from the 300bo they worked and shot good groups , the 150s are only going about 1900 fps so it becomes about finding a bullet that will still expand down to 1600fps

so far only had a chance to take 2 deer and both were neck shot with 110gr V-max


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Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Al Jeff] #6689640
12/10/19 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Jeff
I have shot the 300 Black out for years at hogs and deer. I hand load just because I have everything in a reloading room acquired over the past 30 years. Currently mine is on loan to a friend with 4 youth hunters under age 11. Love getting the text messages with the deer kill pictures with my gun. I have shot hundreds of hogs with the gun and the Barns TTSX is one of the best bullets to load.

Now if you want an AR that will make you go dang that's a shooter, build the 6.5 Grendal. Have to buy different mags but it is a flat shootin, animal killing beast of a small round. Only reason didn't give that to my friend is because it has a thermal on it.

Actually have a grendel! Cool little round and probably would have been better off with a full size rifle. But according to the guys on the 6.5 grendel forum a 1.25" group at 100yd is actually really good even with my hand loads. About the only thing I don't like about the caliber is I'm used to more case capacity ( right now my best load is compressed varget) but I have tried very many powders. Also my local store never seems stock and 6.5 bullets in anything less than 140 grain. But other than that I really like it. Might build a full rifle later on .
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Re: 300 Blackout [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #6689649
12/10/19 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Ok this is interesting. Starting to wish I got a .300 over my 7.62x39 AR lol.


if your shooting super sonic the 7.62x39 has more case capacity.
is your barrel .308 or .310?
unless your having feed issues or wanting to go sub you should be able to do more for deer sized game with the 7.62x39 than the 300bo which is 4mm shorter and skinnier

the 7.62x39 case size is close enough that the 7.62x39 can take advantage of the CFE-BLK powder that was developed for 300blackout , with that little bit of case capacity you can run high end 7.62x39 velocities.

if accuracy isn't what you wanted , it begs the question what are you using for ammo.



See that's one if the things I don't like about the 39. Mine is a bear creek upper and apparently they can be a .310 or a .311. So now I have to have a special .30 cal size most likely instead of just a regular one I could interchange with my 30-06 or dad's. 308.
Really the I got the 39 for a brush gun type deal. Ideally just for shooting hogs for at less than 100yd. I can buy steel cased all day ( $10 for 40rd of tula ) But from a reloading perspective it's a little bit more of a pain compared to what the black out would be it seems. I don't think I've ever come across brass 7.62x39 at the range but I find .223/5.56 all the time and I can form black out brass from that. Also if I can find a bullet that my 30-06 likes as well then that's just one less thing to buy.

Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689652
12/10/19 11:41 PM
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I run a 20 inch barrel on the Grendel and found with that barrel that I get best velocities and accuracy with 123 Grain Hornady SST over a healthy dose of Leverevolution powder. CCI # 400 or 4BR primers.
I just bought some 100 grain Nosler ballistic tips to try out when I have a little spare time to set up my range.


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Re: 300 Blackout [Re: Wolfdog91] #6689686
12/11/19 12:38 AM
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star line 7.62x39 brass https://www.starlinebrass.com/762x39mm-russian

CFE-BLK powder https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018362272

a bullet that should work for you https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1165186764

that should get you right around 2500fps

CFE-BLK gets velocity without higher pressure of some powders so the cases last longer if you can find them all , I figure any used hunting are lost. but I got lucky and was able to find my brass hunting this year

you could load light .308 bullets in a 30-06 but I prefer the 165 or 180 in the 308 and 30-06

I have been thinking about trying the 165 I load for 30-06 in a 300bo the velocity listed book max is 1887fps at 41Kpsi , the cartridge is capable of 55Kpsi.

running the numbers even starting slower the 165 would carry more energy at 100 yards than the 110.

the quest in 300bo is to get a bullet that expands at lower velocity and makes 2 holes


back to 7.62x39 you might try one of the comertially available ammo on some pigs like https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016241938?pid=921973
or https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1001670446 see how they work on the pigs and save the brass.

it may not be 40 for 10 dollars but if it puts down hogs 0.70 to 1.00 a round might be worth it for a good test on hogs


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for the 308 and 30-06 I am running speer 180 and 165 gr BTSP

cost is very reasonable for a hunting bullet and they shoot very well for groups and do what a hunting bullet should on deer.

180 part number is 2052
165 part number is 2034

I took a nice buck with my 30-06 and the 165 and my son took a buck with the 180 in 308win both did just as a bullet should plenty of penetration 20+ inches and made exit and dropped the deer quickly , the 308 got the liver on a shot in the front left and out the right side at the back of the ribs , the liver was shredded as it should before about 3 inches around the bullets path that was about 20 inches in after getting both lungs.

my buck was also an in the front out the side shot.

his was at 100 yards mine about 125


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