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Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA #6690056
12/11/19 02:17 PM
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Well the predictions (at least in Nebraska) have been correct about Groeny taking advantage of no competition. While I know the market is in the sh*tter on fur, I could believe the low prices. $2 tops on great carcass coon and $1.50 tops on carcass muskrats. Maybe that is good for your guys' areas but thankfully I have done some calling and found local buyers that are paying more. I am sure I am going to get roasted for not skinning my critters but being a teacher and a high school basketball coach, you hardly even have time to run a trapline let alone skin.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690057
12/11/19 02:19 PM
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Lets hope that GFW can hold up to their reputation.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690066
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You did the right thing keeping and selling for more money st if you had someone else.

As for trashing Groeny , childish IMO.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690070
12/11/19 02:40 PM
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That's not trashing that's telling It like It Is. He told us what he was offered for his fur.


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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690080
12/11/19 02:46 PM
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Up here in in NE ND my brother and his son sold 13 carcass coon. Few smaller but a few big boars. Got $47. That’s a little better but not much.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690094
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Well, add the cost of processing to that now. It isn't cheap. Id say he paid for the convenience.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: The Beav] #6690103
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Originally Posted by The Beav
That's not trashing that's telling It like It Is. He told us what he was offered for his fur.


The title is trashing to me.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690112
12/11/19 03:21 PM
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I'm not a Groeny lover (never sold to them) or a NAFA hater (sad they went under) but it would make sense that less competition for the fur will lead to lower prices, simple economics. The OP did the right thing when he wasn't happy with the offer, he went out and found a better one.

Lots of turmoil in the fur markets right now and a lot of people will be unhappy, producers (trappers) and consumers (buyers) alike.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: trap-alaska] #6690116
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Originally Posted by trap-alaska
I'm not a Groeny lover (never sold to them) or a NAFA hater (sad they went under) but it would make sense that less competition for the fur will lead to lower prices, simple economics. The OP did the right thing when he wasn't happy with the offer, he went out and found a better one.

Lots of turmoil in the fur markets right now and a lot of people will be unhappy, producers (trappers) and consumers (buyers) alike.


To me it sounds like a decent offer for carcass fur but if you have someone else willing to pay more take it and hopefully they don’t take a beating from doing so



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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690117
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Buying carcass goods is a gamble no matter what the market is or who the buyer is.

If folks don’t like the carcass price, perhaps they should put the fur up and then offer it for sale.


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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690134
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Demand hasn’t changed with NAFA’s demise. The only variance to the market is the furs it held for price from sale. The buyers will move to different auctions or markets to buy fur. Prices will stabilize once the auctions (including NAFA’d final wild fur sale) are done this spring.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: wissmiss] #6690141
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Capitalism works well, and many times not in the way we would like to see it. In a low market put up fur obviously has advantages for the seller and also the buyer. When one thinks about however during a very low market the time spent putting up fur is worth much less per hour even if the percentage increase sounds very high. I am feeling that very low prices are indicating a full market already for some species even with a very, very low harvest. The cost of shipping and waiting is way, way down when the market is this low.

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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: brymoore] #6690150
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Originally Posted by brymoore
Demand hasn’t changed with NAFA’s demise. The only variance to the market is the furs it held for price from sale. The buyers will move to different auctions or markets to buy fur. Prices will stabilize once the auctions (including NAFA’d final wild fur sale) are done this spring.

They are stabilized now. Just real low, its been that way for a few years now.


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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690153
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This just is not a good time to be a trapper. IMO


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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690155
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Amen GT

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690160
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when your offering fur face to face and you think the price is low just say no. gather up your fur and go home. why does everyone always act like they were forced to accept an offer?


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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690161
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sooner rather than later i'm afraid ya'll gonna run outta people to blame.









Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: danny clifton] #6690168
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
when your offering fur face to face and you think the price is low just no. gather up your fur and go home. why does everyone always act like they were forced to accept an offer?


I guess you can only re-freeze carcus fur so many times.....or none, I don't know, never tried it.

Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: conibearguy] #6690175
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thats why stretchers and fleshing knives got invented a few thousand years ago. quit being lazy


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Re: Groenewold Taking Advantage of no NAFA [Re: danny clifton] #6690181
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
thats why stretchers and fleshing knives got invented a few thousand years ago. quit being lazy

Can you read or do you choose not to? It's not a lazy thing. It's a time factor thing.

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