They took my DNA when I joined the Army... The reason they gave for it was to identify my remains. Cheerful thought.

Even more cheerful is knowing Uncle Sam has my DNA on file now.

Mike

there was a Wisconsin Company that didn't require employees be chipped but , they were going to have much more hassle with security around the facility if they didn't.

the issue with chipping becomes when you leave that company , do they pay to have the chip removed

an air force friend of mine one time said you know
when you crash bad and there isn't any definable chunks of you left , they look at your medical records say yup 170 pounds , shovel that much from the crash site into your coffin and send it home sealed.

I've always stayed within my means, meaning I could always tell someone to take a hike.

So, that's exactly what I'd tell that employer.

Good union representation will allow you to do that without worrying about losing your job.As a matter of fact several cases of similar management heavyhandedness were quashed by our union when I was working.

Yea, but then your beholden to them. Probably worse than the employer.

Truck drivers are required to on a minutes notice give urine samples, I would imagine that DNA samples could also be gotten.

If an employer ask for my fingerprints or DNA I'd tell him to pound sand and go back to working for myself.

Been self-employed for thirty-plus years.

Not off topic on this post and for family to have that kind of info on file is not big deal. Kinda goes way back if you will to the days when church kept a record of births. Maybe and family elder had some info on a birth and that child in family bible..

As for the military putting a chip in solders. If the chip was only able to be scanned for the same info on a dog tag. Really wouldn't be big deal as long it couldn't actually track your location. Even that for a soldier in combat wouldn't be a bad deal..

When I was still working our newest airpacks had what I assume was some type blue tooth. It when paired with right soft wear in the computer on the command truck could track where that air pack was. Could even be programmed to a building blue print to show where person was in the building. We didn't have that fancy software our just showed we were on air and in the building.
But all those things are meant to track people..
As from keeping your medical records to you self. Can't a doctor unless he lies about some condition you have. Keep you from having a drivers license or I believe a CDL? Can't you loose a CDL for certain medical reason. So that info is out there.

Big can of worms just like anything else that is your info is who has it and why.
Up to the individual what it's worth to hand that out..

Mac

How do you that are worried about your employers having your fingerprints think they will use them against you?

I can see DNA being more of an issue. For instance, you could be charged more for insurance if you had certain markers that showed you were more likely to develop ailments like cancer, heart disease, alzheimers or diabetes.

Keith

can you get dna from urine?

military takes dna so remains can be identified.

I can not think of any legitimate reason for any other employer to require a dna sample.

L.E. takes dna whenever somebody gets arrested. It has solved many unsolved crimes but I am a little concerned about the loss of privacy. The sample is taken upon arrest not after a conviction.

A bigger problem is the government requiring a contractor to provide employee DNA as a contract requirement. Almost everyone will comply for a buck. They disarming military members on our bases and require civilians to give up civil rights to access those base.

That's messed up.

i have not heard of that?

In order to practice law in Alaska, in 1981 I had to go to the police station to be finger-printed.

I'd tell an employer to take a hike if they wanted my DNA.

Jim

Boco, here in the U.S. if your a union member you are donating money to the democrats whether you want to or not.

When the federal government decided that they should control licensing of truck drivers they invented "endorsements". A way to increase the tax burden on the trucking industry. It requires an extra fee in order to pull double trailers or haul stuff requiring a placard, even for using air brakes. The placard endorsement known as hazmat requires finger printing. I have no idea why as before the tax increase there were no problems resulting from not having the tax or finger prints.

Danny,

I haven't heard of it either. There are a lot of things government does I hadn't heard of 40 years ago. I should have been clearer.

It so happens that I don't really have too much trouble at all securing job offers. I won't even tell you to pound anything just simply and immediately inform of my intentions. Smiling as I find my own box for my junk and roll my tools and test gear to the parking lot.

I have "trust issues" for very good reasons and from direct experiences. It is hard won wisdom in my opinion.

This entire mess is completely out of control. Giving up freedom and privacy for "security" and "safety" is a sure way to obtain NONE of the above.

Freedom is for those with the intestinal fortitude and brass ones that are required to live it for real.

Some things I can tolerate and will do, and when I can't I move along

Don't know, they get it from saliva, right? Once you "give" your sample its theirs aint it?

I think finger prints in today's world are probably considered pretty low tec way to ID someone. Simple pair of cheap gloves and you were never in the room where crime was. Right? Be hard for someone to transfer your finger prints to a crime scene in area you've physically never been. Take those same cheap gloves that you have worn turn them inside out. Could be possible for someone to leave enough DNA to identify that you were some where, maybe you never were?? Now add actual finger prints at crime scene and DNA then your going to have some explaining to do..
Then there is the fact that now days it's hard to even pee in the woods without being on someones camera.
I had a picture of a forester this fall peeing by one of my bear baits. He obviously had no idea camera was there until after the fact. I have no idea who the man is just know he was a forester. I deleted that picture right away and no one but my self seen it. Now could I have seen that picture and with some ill intent gotten DNA from that spot??? Who knows. I'm no scientist and have no reason to even want a sample.
While I'm often suspect of authority. I'm also not so quick as many to believe everything is a conspiracy or staged set up..
Think we can all agree it's getting easier to have our personal info collected. Whether we volunteer it or not.
I still think there is better chance straight up thieves miss using/stealing your info, then our government.

Mac