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Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: Boco] #6692292
12/13/19 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
I see that Dirt,look at all the inapropriate references to "Sport" in regards to trapping.


Who died and left you the sacred keeper of the

trapping community's "appropriate" language, BOCO ? frown

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Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692300
12/13/19 06:20 PM
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Trapping isn't a sport.
If trapping ever gets relegated to a "sport" you can kiss it goodbye.
The general public today wont support the killing of animals that you cant eat for "fun sport".
Maybe you can have fun doing nuisance control WORK.
If you want to take up sports after trapping is done,maybe you can play hockey or tennis,golf or basketball.

Last edited by Boco; 12/13/19 06:26 PM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: Boco] #6692302
12/13/19 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Trapping isn't a sport.

Like it or not Boco, trapping is a sport.
We just don't use the same gear as other sports.

Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692303
12/13/19 06:27 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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No trapping is not a sport.It can never be a sport If you sell the product its commercial.Commercial harvesting to manage the resource is not a sport-
Anyone who kills animals for fun is sick.
Nuisance animal control is also not a "sport"

Last edited by Boco; 12/13/19 06:30 PM.

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Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: Boco] #6692305
12/13/19 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
No trapping is not a sport.

I have fun trapping, so it's a sport
If I didn't have fun, it would just be a job.

Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692307
12/13/19 06:31 PM
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So you never sell fur-Bull.
Subsistence trapping for meat or fur for own use is acceptable to the public.Killing for some sick pleasure is not.

Last edited by Boco; 12/13/19 06:32 PM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692316
12/13/19 06:41 PM
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I sell about half my fur, and tan the lesser grade stuff.
All the money I make always goes back into more trapping supply's.
And I believe there are more fun trappers than make a living at it trappers.
Though I would love to trap for a living. I have to be realistic, my section does not have any fur this market wants.

Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: Boco] #6692340
12/13/19 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
So you never sell fur-Bull.
Subsistence trapping for meat or fur for own use is acceptable to the public.Killing for some sick pleasure is not.

Nothing sick about trapping for pleasure. Very few people are making money trapping right now, unless they have premium furs in their area, which I wager is only about 10 percent or less. So, for most, it's a sport.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692347
12/13/19 07:15 PM
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No,it is like Ralph Bice stated,the reason people follow trapping as a line of work is because they enjoy the outdoor life and the freedom of being on the land.
But if they could not sell the fruits of their labour for a fair financial compensation to provide for their families they would have no reason to follow that line of work.,
Its not surprising you have all the fur bans and trapping restrictions down there with that attitude of killing just for fun.The public wont support killing animals for "sport".The public still supports commercial trapping as well as for sustenance,Nuisance animal control is also not a "sport"It is commercial work just like trapping for the fur industry.
The attitude that killing animals and tossing them in the ditch for" fun" will be the death of the industry and will put professional trappers out of work.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692365
12/13/19 07:30 PM
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Well, Boco, now you understand what is really going on and know that there is no hope.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692376
12/13/19 07:52 PM
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So you don't enjoy trapping at all Boco? You only do it because it has to be done?


Eh...wot?

Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692382
12/13/19 07:54 PM
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Last edited by Northof50; 12/13/19 07:54 PM. Reason: I had to add something to this nonsense.
Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692383
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I guess all us hobby trappers should just quit and leave it to you professionals eh Dirt?


Eh...wot?

Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: Lugnut] #6692415
12/13/19 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I guess all us hobby trappers should just quit and leave it to you professionals eh Dirt?


No. The industry needs you to supply at below production costs.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692426
12/13/19 08:15 PM
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Just because it is a hobby does not mean it is a sport, there are hobby farmers, hobby ranchers, etc. These are not sports but a hobby. Here in Texas it used to say commercial furbearers license, now it just says trapping license. If you can not grasp what Dirt and Boco are saying, then I have to agree with them that this industry is a soon to be memory.


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Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692514
12/13/19 09:01 PM
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Ok well I see my post has went south as usual. Thanks for the people that actually posted useful information. I am still trying to figure out how NAFA making poor decisions and going bankrupt is FHA’s faullt and will ultimately cause low prices and be the demise of trapping. Wow. Apparently prices were great last year when NAFA was selling your fur and getting ready to send you bad checks. So getting higher prices and going bankrupt must be better than slightly lower prices and staying in business?? And then everyone sits around bashing a company that buys fur and in the same breath complains about not having enough options and competition to raise prices. We need prices to go back up so I can actually read useful conversations on here about trapping. I guess if you can’t make a living at trapping get out, it’s a sport for me and something I enjoy doing, all I ask is start your own post and bash away on Groeny, FHA and everyone else that is buying fur at a lower price than you think you deserve.


In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks--John Muir
Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: countrygun] #6692522
12/13/19 09:07 PM
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I apologise for the use of the word sport. I did not like the nomenclature the first time I wrote it but struggled for a better word at the time and then let it snow ball from there. Regardless of how you feel about the word I should not have used it because as I said, I trap for the money. I also apologise to the Kansas guys whose thread I hijacked. I wrote a couple replies to Jbyrd or whatever his name is on some other threads regarding NAFA but always deleted them. This was the one I finally hit post on. Sorry.

Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692571
12/13/19 09:32 PM
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So much for anything to do with OP

Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692626
12/13/19 09:56 PM
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Groeny has to turn a Profit to stay in Business... Pay a fuel bill for driving a truck around. Employee pay. Then dress or prep fur for garments. Pay the cost to ship to China to your buyers..

Of course They cant Pay TOP Dollar , Otherwise they would be NAFA'ED.

Re: Groeny’s first kansas run [Re: trapfurfun] #6692627
12/13/19 09:57 PM
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I have caught a lot of flack myself. We worry about discussing quick and humane ways to kill animals then turn around and tell everybody we are doing that killing for fun. Just like killing deer for their antlers and calling the animal a trophy is turning a whole generation away from firearm ownership and hunting, killing furbearers just to be killing, ABSOLUTELY IS THE #1 REASON FOR ALL THE CONTROVERSY.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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