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Virginia folks? #6692525
12/13/19 09:08 PM
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What's the latest? I've heard the dems are threatening to deploy the VNG to squash these 2A sanctuary counties... And in turn folks are talking about, or are in the process of, forming militias.

It's hard to judge how much is posturing and hyperbole and what the facts are.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692552
12/13/19 09:22 PM
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I’m following a couple folks that are crossing the state attending the county meetings. Sounds like things could get pretty tense. Possible Kent State only with returning fire.

Last edited by HobbieTrapper; 12/13/19 09:23 PM.

-Goofy-
Re: Virginia folks? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6692560
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I’m following a couple folks that are crossing the state attending the county meetings. Sounds like things could get pretty tense. Possible Kent State only with returning fire.


If they are called up I have to wonder how many guardsmen will report for duty... I'm guessing a decent percentage are residents of the very counties they'd be sent to invade.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692574
12/13/19 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
I’m following a couple folks that are crossing the state attending the county meetings. Sounds like things could get pretty tense. Possible Kent State only with returning fire.


If they are called up I have to wonder how many guardsmen will report for duty... I'm guessing a decent percentage are residents of the very counties they'd be sent to invade.

Mike

Not to mention some of their family members may be involved - who's gonna shoot Uncle Willie?


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Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692579
12/13/19 09:37 PM
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What's the National Guard going to do? There's no armed insurrection. I'm not sure the NG is equipped to make prosecutors enforce state laws. I don't know who can do that but I'm not sure the NG are the right people. Sounds like fake news to me.


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Re: Virginia folks? [Re: maintenanceguy] #6692632
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If a Sanctuary city for the 2nd amendment is not legal then why is a sanctuary city for ILLEGAL ALIENS OK. I think the libs or getting into a bind with this mess.

Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692640
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I think it is far more likely the governor will task the state police with enforcement of the new BS laws.

Threatening to use the National Guard was stupid and, IMO, pure theatrics.


Eh...wot?

Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692812
12/13/19 11:43 PM
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they are forming the Militia because there is a unique clause in the Virginia constitution that basically requires it. that each county maintain a well regulated Militia interdependent of any standing state or federal army.

this has been ignored since reconstruction for the most part.


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Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692903
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Re: Virginia folks? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6692933
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper


Good. It looks like the liberal, anti-constitution, anti-2A, anti-America freaks have taken notice of the massive push-back against their gun-grabbing laws.


Eh...wot?

Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692945
12/14/19 08:33 AM
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I wish it had not come to this. If there are enough people (gun owners) to make the elected Dem politicians change their minds about passing gun control measures, where the heck were those same people on election day last month when these politicians got elected???? It's not like we didn't have adequate notice. The Dems tried to pass the same bills earlier in the year following the Va Beach shooting but were stopped by the Rep majority in the House of Delegates (a majority of one). As majority party the Rep's had the majority in each committee so the bills never got out of committee.

Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692951
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Good question EdP. I'd love to see the percentage of registered voters that voted from each party.


Eh...wot?

Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692957
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Had a school bond vote here. increase on property tax. It passed. I cant find anybody who voted for it.


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Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6692961
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That is a good question. Either they didn't get out and vote and now they're in oh crap mode or something is a muck with the computerized voting. Call me paranoid if you wish and I know in the past there has been fraud with paper ballots but this computer voting is to easy to mess with imo. I don't trust it and think we should get a print out of how we vote.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Catch22] #6692986
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Look at the last vote...all but 11 counties was red !!!
All big cities went blue.

Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6693006
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I believe the vote. There are many who will cut off their own nose to spite their face.

Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6693022
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As far as I'm concerned if any "army" of force is sent in to disarm lawful citizens and fires upon those citizens unjustly then it's open season. We don't live in Hong Kong where we can be shot dead in the streets for protesting and nothing happens. If it happens here they're getting what they want and that's a war! I am currently in law enforcement and have been for almost 21yrs and I am opposed to and will not uphold any laws against the constitution.


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Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6693024
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They start throwing lead around, it could be the final straw for the DemoRatic party. Thousands of God fearing, American loving patriots will invade that state and it's going to get ugly quick. It could be the flash point. Just look at all the help the cattle ranchers got a few years back and that was nowhere near the scale of this.


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Re: Virginia folks? [Re: Donnie H] #6693062
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Originally Posted by Donnie H
Look at the last vote...all but 11 counties was red !!!
All big cities went blue.


70% of the population is in the big cities. People are traveling to each county which is why they are showing the numbers at the meetings but those folks can’t vote there.


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