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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: ebsurveyor]
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01/25/20 06:44 PM
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forestman3
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Ebsurveyor since you where out with him can I ask how he keeps the muskrats?I would think he would have to add something to them to keep them from freezing and I personally can't think of how I would carry them because 4 or 5 rats would fill up a gallon container.I`m surprised he doesn`t grind them and just put a spoonful down the hole to make it more convenient.Now don`t everybody jump on me because I know what he`s doing is working,I`m just wondering how he carrys them and such.Most of us carry a pint container that we can make a lot of dirt holes out of. When I was there Robert was saving coon & coyote glands. His 'rats are frozen and kept in a freezer. He thaws out a five gal bucket as needed and cuts them into 4 or 6 pieces and fills quart plastic jars each night. Note the bait cutting that was done each night, see photo. He also has pint jars of a bobcat based bait that he makes. At each stop he makes at least one set with each bait. Sometimes he will joke about lure and drip out some 'rat blood on the dirt at the back of the hole. He also said something like "a coyote in a trap is the best lure you can get". He did carry a 1 oz. bottle of Hawbaker's gland lure, said it was good for 'cats. I never saw him use it and it was red fox gland lure. BTW, Robert gave me permission to share stuff with you all, but I'm keeping some secrets to myself. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/r3M4uVy.jpg) Thanks for the reply.I thought I read somewhere he was using a half a rat down each hole.Makes more sence now.Does he add something to keep it from freezing?
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: forestman3]
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01/25/20 07:01 PM
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[/quote]Thanks for the reply.I thought I read somewhere he was using a half a rat down each hole.Makes more sence now.Does he add something to keep it from freezing?[/quote]
Nothing but 'rat while I watched.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: Teacher]
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01/26/20 10:29 AM
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Is he snaring much or just footholds? Mostly if not all footholds
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: Teacher]
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01/26/20 11:40 AM
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Is he snaring much or just footholds? The Beav or EB can answer for sure but I thought his deal was no snares. Foot holds only.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: The Beav]
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01/26/20 11:50 AM
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garman
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Just heard from Robert...100% footholds.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: walleye101]
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01/26/20 12:42 PM
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"Does he add something to keep it from freezing?"
It appears his sets don't lay around empty long enough to worry about freezing. I don`t think it would matter if it froze a little in the hole but a bait container full of solid bait would be a pain.It apparently has not been that cold though.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: The Beav]
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01/26/20 01:53 PM
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Here's something interesting. I asked If he ever used a siren to locate family groups when setting up new ground. He said in Kansas being big cattle country all the feed wagons are equipped with sirens to a alert the cattle when the feed was being dumped. So coyotes didn't react to a siren.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: The Beav]
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01/26/20 02:05 PM
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Everyone I know just honks the horn on the feed truck, never seen one w a siren.
Yes, we have cattle in kansas.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: The Beav]
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01/26/20 08:16 PM
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Update
5 today
One off the new ground.
There is a coyote hunting contest going on this new ground so he can't set It all up.
I guess It was 40 some Degs today and coyotes aren't moving In this kind of weather.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: forestman3]
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01/26/20 08:48 PM
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"Does he add something to keep it from freezing?"
It appears his sets don't lay around empty long enough to worry about freezing. I don`t think it would matter if it froze a little in the hole but a bait container full of solid bait would be a pain.It apparently has not been that cold though. It's warm in the cab of the truck.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: The Beav]
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01/27/20 12:33 AM
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You should know you spend 90% of your time there. LOL
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
[Re: The Beav]
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01/27/20 01:07 AM
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You should know you spend 90% of your time there. LOL Cool in the summer
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
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01/27/20 12:02 PM
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Get over that 900 mark might as well go for 1,000 then make a ton of money on the book.
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Re: Quest for a 1000 coyotes
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01/27/20 01:27 PM
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He can't do It he has to leave in a few days to fulfill other commitments.
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