Re: Virginia folks?
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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The prudent thing would be for the government to delay taking action until after SCOTUS has.ruled on the law.
Look pretty bad if the government commits a mass shooting.
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Re: Virginia folks?
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12/14/19 11:02 AM
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As far as I'm concerned if any "army" of force is sent in to disarm lawful citizens and fires upon those citizens unjustly then it's open season. We don't live in Hong Kong where we can be shot dead in the streets for protesting and nothing happens. If it happens here they're getting what they want and that's a war! I am currently in law enforcement and have been for almost 21yrs and I am opposed to and will not uphold any laws against the constitution. Lonewolf308: I believe you took a oath of office to do so. Just like every elected official has done. Thank you for your service.!
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Re: Virginia folks?
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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I am 100% against gun registry! But the State knows where a lot of gun are, you bought a hunting license. Small game, most likely a 22 or shot gun. Deer license, most likely a hi powered rifle. You had to give your name and address. JMO
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Re: Virginia folks?
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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insta check created a federal gun owner registry
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Virginia folks?
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I've definitely sworn to uphold the laws of Virginia and various town laws, never had the privilege to swear to uphold the constitution. I guess the question I've always asked myself is when is the time, the definitive moment, when you have to throw off your chains and break oaths for the greater good and protection of the foundations of this country? There's a fine line between self interest and greater good. My opinion of foundation shaking laws and yours varies. Many "home grown terrorist" have thought their time was the time to fight back and let the government know how they felt. The line between making history and being erased from it is almost invisible but if you wait to long then you'll wake up only to feel the weight of the chain around your neck.
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Re: Virginia folks?
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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It will play out like that Bundy thing out west.Some gun waving nut will get taken out by the authorities and all the bluster and rhetoric will evaporate like a puff of smoke.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Virginia folks?
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12/14/19 04:57 PM
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It will play out like that Bundy thing out west.Some gun waving nut will get taken out by the authorities and all the bluster and rhetoric will evaporate like a puff of smoke. I don’t think so. They don’t have to battle the government just eliminate a sufficient number of citizens that put them there.
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Re: Virginia folks?
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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You dont think the Hillbillies will fold up like the cowboys did? Just askin,cause it sounds like the same "we're going out in a blaze of glory"rhetoric.
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Re: Virginia folks?
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I wish it had not come to this. If there are enough people (gun owners) to make the elected Dem politicians change their minds about passing gun control measures, where the heck were those same people on election day last month when these politicians got elected???? It's not like we didn't have adequate notice. The Dems tried to pass the same bills earlier in the year following the Va Beach shooting but were stopped by the Rep majority in the House of Delegates (a majority of one). As majority party the Rep's had the majority in each committee so the bills never got out of committee. This is exactly what I have been saying. The masses don't take time out of their schedule to vote, but when the extremely left governor gets elected and a couple of years later finally has a majority in the house and Senate now they are taking it seriously and want to take action. Should have never came to this. Northam ran on a platform of gun control. He is as ultra liberal as they come. Only 38 percent of registered Republicans voted in that election. Now every county and city wants to declare sacntuary status. Our county, Halifax, was voted a sanctuary county two weeks ago. Sanctuary county don't mean anything. I'm glad all these counties are doing this but all it is doing is showing I sign of solidarity. County laws can not override state. State will withhold funds. I definitely do not think that the national guard will follow northams orders. The Dems of VA which controls every aspect of government now are back peddling. They have realized that northern VA controls the elections,. Rural VA is all about the 2nd amendment. Stay tuned, could be the next"shot heard around the world"
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Re: Virginia folks?
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Good. It looks like the liberal, anti-constitution, anti-2A, anti-America freaks have taken notice of the massive push-back against their gun-grabbing laws. Good? It's only good if the people protesting it completely ignore this. Requiring people to register every gun is nearly as bad as banning them. It also would prevent every child in Virginia from getting a Marlin squirrel gun under the Christmas tree. I don't see very much good here.
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Re: Virginia folks?
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Good. It looks like the liberal, anti-constitution, anti-2A, anti-America freaks have taken notice of the massive push-back against their gun-grabbing laws.
Good? It's only good if the people protesting it completely ignore this. Requiring people to register every gun is nearly as bad as banning them. It also would prevent every child in Virginia from getting a Marlin squirrel gun under the Christmas tree. I don't see very much good here. I agree however, we learned from a thread a few days ago that paperwork on firearms sold are retained FOREVER and they can be traced back to who purchased the firearm. Not an actual registration but pretty darn close. If that’s the case, completing a registry and reporting it lost or stolen a few weeks later isn’t going to be much different. The youth thing as well as the defense training is completely bizarre!
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Re: Virginia folks?
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Good? It's only good if the people protesting it completely ignore this. Requiring people to register every gun is nearly as bad as banning them. It also would prevent every child in Virginia from getting a Marlin squirrel gun under the Christmas tree. I don't see very much good here.
I agree however, we learned from a thread a few days ago that paperwork on firearms sold are retained FOREVER and they can be traced back to who purchased the firearm. Not an actual registration but pretty darn close. If that’s the case, completing a registry and reporting it lost or stolen a few weeks later isn’t going to be much different. The youth thing as well as the defense training is completely bizarre! I disagree. I could buy a gun tomorrow under my name, and by this time next year it could have had 6 owners and be in some gang bangers hand in Los Angeles. Proof of who bought a gun commercially is NOT the same as a gun registry, which would include requirements of documenting WHO you sold that gun to, or else you would be liable.... big difference.
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Re: Virginia folks?
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12/15/19 02:39 AM
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You are right. Nothing good about this. It will eliminate youth hunting. Sickening, every VA citizen that owns a gun is squalling now. Where were these folks in November? The Dems told you what they had planned but the voters didn't turn out. Now that the Dems are in a position to make wholesale changes every gun owner in the state is crying. These rural folks, such as myself are too used to having a republican controlled state Senate that they didn't bother to vote. For the record, I voted,. I've voted in every election since I was 18, I'm 47 now. I don’t know that there were enough registered Republicans in the flipped redistricted districts to have made a difference. Republicans are going to have to leave the country life and move back into the cities to turn it around.
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Re: Virginia folks?
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I agree however, we learned from a thread a few days ago that paperwork on firearms sold are retained FOREVER and they can be traced back to who purchased the firearm. Not an actual registration but pretty darn close. If that’s the case, completing a registry and reporting it lost or stolen a few weeks later isn’t going to be much different.
The youth thing as well as the defense training is completely bizarre!
I disagree. I could buy a gun tomorrow under my name, and by this time next year it could have had 6 owners and be in some gang bangers hand in Los Angeles. Proof of who bought a gun commercially is NOT the same as a gun registry, which would include requirements of documenting WHO you sold that gun to, or else you would be liable.... big difference. They find that gun in a gang banger’s hand you don’t think they are going to find you? They will and you’ll say I sold that to so and so or I gave that gun to Earl Iskabibble. The only difference in doing that and what I mentioned is they won’t even come knocking on your door because they have paperwork where you reported it lost or stolen.
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