Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/17/19 01:33 PM
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although i've never sold direct to one of the auction houses,i'm sure they had a lot to do with me making the amount i've made in the last 30 plus yrs.
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/17/19 01:35 PM
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Boco
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So Dirt-why do you keep trapping if you didn't/ don't/cant/never make any money at it?
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: Boco]
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12/17/19 01:51 PM
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Dirt
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So Dirt-why do you keep trapping if you didn't/ don't/cant/never make any money at it? Why do you keep asking this stupid question? I never said I can't make money trapping. I said I can't make good money selling at most of the Auction prices over the years. BTW Since '96 Lynx brought over a $200 average once in 2008. 2013 was right at $200. Since 2003 most years the average would have been in the $125 range. Prior to 2003 The average would have been in the $70 range. Since 2014 Lynx is averaging somewhere in the $70 area. Auction prices.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/17/19 02:06 PM
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Add %30 for the exchange rate
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/17/19 02:07 PM
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i was talking about your raw fur operation,not your value added operation. I dont go by the auction avg,I go by my own avg.If you have ever attended an auction,and seen the junk in some of the bins,you know why there is a substantial difference for a lot of us between one and the other.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
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12/17/19 02:26 PM
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You guys need to keep in mind that boco is talking Canadian money which is typically worth 20 to 30 percent less than ours. Now I'm not trying to take away from Robert and I did say typically. $2000 days is hard for the imagination to grasp at $125 Marten and $150 otter.
$400 days aren't hard to imagine at $40 Marten and $20 beaver ......yes I agree with you 400 dollar days are easy but not consistent for very long......what boco claims are gross not net! what he don't tell you is that it cost him 375 dollars to make that 400 lol (example).....lots of expense comes with trapping especially if you count your time.....was skinning until 3am today! but I guess if you live in the bush like boco time means nothing there is lots of that.
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: Steven 49er]
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12/17/19 03:14 PM
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Add %30 for the exchange rate Ironically the two high years the Canadian dollar was worth more or the same as the U.S. dollar.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/17/19 04:42 PM
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There are rumors of some mink ranchers and maybe some skin dealers getting together in the near future to start another auction company.
ITA, NTA, FTA
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/17/19 10:00 PM
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So many morons shooting off at the mouth. Anyone with the smallest amount of sense can see that the demise and collapse of NAFA only hurts everyone. INCLUDING those that market their fur elsewhere. Whether it be FHA or the local boob in the truck.
Funny, the ones cackling the loudest seem to be Groenewolds fan club. They must be happy to see someone else getting nothing for their fur for a change.
A lot of short sided ignorant "trappers" here
Last edited by longrangekilla; 12/17/19 10:01 PM.
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: yukonjeff]
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12/17/19 11:55 PM
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Yea that would be a good idea to get involved with mink ranchers again. Yeah because it only worked for how many years?
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: Boco]
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12/18/19 10:48 AM
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Dirt
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i was talking about your raw fur operation,not your value added operation. I dont go by the auction avg,I go by my own avg.If you have ever attended an auction,and seen the junk in some of the bins,you know why there is a substantial difference for a lot of us between one and the other.
Most of those numbers I gave on lynx prices would have been Section 1 averages. So in conclusion, most likely you averaged over $250 Canadian on Lynx 2 years out of the last years 32 at NAFA. I'll be generous and make it 4 years or 12.5% of the years NAFA has been your middleman.
Last edited by Dirt; 12/18/19 12:47 PM. Reason: NAFA only existed for 32 years. my bad
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/18/19 10:55 AM
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Day 3.....
As dawn breaks around the country,it still can be seen in the distance by all.
although hard to see,its obvious its only half as thick as it was just a short time ago.
yet they swing at it with all the vim and vigor of a juiced up teenager.
..............................Ode to a Dead Horse...........................
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/18/19 11:02 AM
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Dirt
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Well, pcr2, you and me are not believers, but I'm hopefully helping other people see the light. Or not. "But they sure handled a lot of wild fur and trappers made scads of money off Nafa for a long time."
Last edited by Dirt; 12/18/19 01:03 PM.
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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If you could read right I said Lots of money was made at both auction houses not just NAFA. Although there were a lot of years in the 70's and 80's where lynx were around 300Adjusted for inflation that would be like double of today),there were years when good lynx sold over 500. So I still say over the 40 years my lynx I marketed thru the auctions would hit around 250.avg'd out over the 40 years between the two auctions. Trappers definitly made scads of money thru the auction houses over the years,thats why they continued to trap and ship fur,and the local buyers disappeared.
Last edited by Boco; 12/18/19 12:30 PM.
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/18/19 01:22 PM
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The local buyers disappeared because they weren't getting enough money at auction...…. and died off, around here anyhow and nobody surely wanted to step in.....
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Re: NAFA still has a pulse
[Re: walleye101]
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12/18/19 01:32 PM
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Groney bought out a few country buyers In this area.
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