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Getting Rid of Buckthorn #6704502
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Is it possible to get rid of European Buckthorn? Weve pulled it, sprayed it, cut it, its always back within a couple years. The deer browse everything except Buckthorn, I am not sure it is really possible to get rid of it as long as deer are in the area helping it out compete all the native browse.

We have always had some Buckthorn but after losing the Elms to Dutch Elm it has just gotten out of control and nothing is out competing it.

Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6704541
12/24/19 01:05 PM
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I am afraid that with the root system, the seed base and birds carrying the seed we will never be rid of it completely. I have a small woodlot and I struggle to keep it out.
Burning seems to control it as good as anything.

Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: squacks] #6704547
12/24/19 01:12 PM
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Lot of different kinds of Buckthorn but you can do an amazing job on the "buckbrush" around here with just regular 2, 4-D LV when the leaves are just starting and before the waxy cuticle gets thick. It's normally about the middle 2 weeks in May in my area (just about same latitude with Des Moines). Guys around here spray it 2 years and it's gone where grass and other vegetation is allowed to grow. Any other time of year 2, 4-D just makes it mad.


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Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6704560
12/24/19 01:25 PM
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have you tried cutting about 6 inches above ground and glyphosate stump killer painted on the cut every time you see one.

likely to be a constant struggle of maintenance but allows you a solution to kill them any time as you see them.


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Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6704573
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1 gallon of diesel fuel mixed with a quart of remedy ultra. Spray from the ground up 18 inches or so during the growing season. I havent seen anything that will survive this.


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Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6704596
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Once you spray it what are you replanting to compete with it in the future? Or do you continually just spray it?

Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6704610
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Do these sprays kill everything they touch? I have a lot of flowering woodland plants. I have read that some poisons are residual up to 7 years.
I just have a very small woodlot and keep the stuff down with weed whopper and fire.
It looks to me as though the bush sets out a large fibrous root system. Kill the main stalk and bunches of small suckers come up off the roots.
If this spray kills the whole root system, it would help a lot.
I just don't have 7 years to wait to start over on my native plant reintroduction. I have to try and do both at once and live long enough to see the results. It is a futile effort.
The buckthorn is just waiting for my exit...it will win in the end.

Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6704706
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You want to do a basal bark spray with the mixture I gave you. It will kill roots and all. Just spray the bottom 24 -18 inches of it. Dont cut it off or nothing before it is completely dead. By doing is this way it will keep it off neighboring plants and stuff you want to keep.

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Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6704722
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I guess i messed up when i clear cut the buckthorne and honeysuckle. All i have at present are stumps and twigs.

Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: squacks] #6704749
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I am on the land committee for a 5 county Land Conservancy and we own 4 properties and have environmental leases on another 20-24. We have several invasive plants we work to control Buckthorn, Honeysuckle and phragmities are the major 3. With buckthorn we cut and paint the short root stubs with glysophate and oil or other similar products. We try to do this while the plant is still growing faster which gets the systemic chemical down in the root system. We also collect and burn what we cut. We have contracted with some firms that do this and results are pretty good, but not cheap. One disadvantage with contracting out is when do they get to your job. Many are busy and a couple times they did the work very late and we saw a lot poorer response.

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Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6705015
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I am really wondering if anyone has had long term success? Since I was a little kid I have been cutting this stuff down and my dad has been spraying it but within a couple years it is back. Is it inevitable that this is a once every couple year project?

Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6705314
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Agent Orange will do the job. I don't think it is exactly the same thing but pretty close to the stuff that power companies use to spray their power line, right of ways.

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Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6705338
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Tordon same stuff but it will kill other stuff around the area.

Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: danvee] #6705371
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The power company around here was using garlon 4 which is just a little hotter then remedy ultra. I've used remedy ultra to kill acres of tree of heaven, I usually check it for 3 years in a row as I'm bound to miss one or two here and there. The problem I've experienced with cutting stuff off and then spraying is that it starts sending up sprouts and root suckers immediately, so even though I just got the main part i was after I'll have many more take its place.

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Re: Getting Rid of Buckthorn [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6705726
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
I am really wondering if anyone has had long term success? Since I was a little kid I have been cutting this stuff down and my dad has been spraying it but within a couple years it is back. Is it inevitable that this is a once every couple year project?


The City of Minnetonka had a seminar on Buckthorn, and I went to it. The forester said to cut it with a pruner, and paint on Roundup (at least 10%...I used 50/50) mixed with water. My 50/50 mix of water and Roundup, painted on with a small paintbrush, killed every plant that got it. Worked for me...

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