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Paying for your own funeral #6705781
12/25/19 06:05 PM
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A trend here in the last few years is quite a few people asking for donations to pay for the funeral of someone. They have a “ go fund me” set up by the funeral home right in their obituary announcement. Is this happening nationwide or is it just another devolving element of lack of personal responsibility of the inevitable in society? These are not unexpected deaths of young people in a lot of cases and also not people that have no family members and die alone. Sad to say but many in this area contribute nothing to society and have everything paid for them from womb to tomb and now in this case perhaps after the tomb as an extension of the way they live their lives. Just wondering.....

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705784
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You wont have to worry about it when your dead-it will be someone elses problem,
If you have a problem scatching up enough money for a hit of fentanyl,I dont think you'll be putting money away for a funeral.
Same as people who dont prepare for retirement,then find themselves short of rent or feed.They aint gonna care what happens to them when they are dead either.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705785
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Not common here at all. Frowned upon.

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705796
12/25/19 06:23 PM
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not common here either,,,

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705815
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As the coroner for arkansas 2nd largest county,Nd probably the richest it is a problem
I have problems with even getting a lot of family to even choose a funeral home , they want the county to take care of the body. I cringe when we have to transport to my office because without a lot of arm twisting I'm stuck with the body. And most of these have family but don't want to " waste" money on final disposition. Some even try to rearrange with my office and will tell me up front that they want xyz to inherit their funds one even wanted it to go to animal rescue.

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705821
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Well, I believe that if you get groceries, housing, electric, dental and medical free all your life there is just no expectation to do something on your own upon death. I have suspected it is just another little step of the Great Society of the sixties in Appalachia that was the thief of most of the Scotch/ Irish pride and hard work that settled this area.

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705831
12/25/19 07:17 PM
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My wife and I have already paid for ours. We don't think we need to pay for a stranger.

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705859
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As a former hospice social worker of 12 plus years, and the other ten as as an Alzheimer’s director, I found it amazing the people who have no clue the actual cost of a funeral as well as the fact most are nationally owned now. My family ran the local funeral home for over 75 years I might add as well. Few take payment plans unless they are local or know the family. Some won’t even pick up a body without a check. I often had to explain you can’t repo a funeral so they demand payment prior to service. 1500 to 3500 just for cremation. 7k for funeral service or more depending on actual service. I have no way at my age to “prepare for a funeral” other than life insurance which I have. I don’t want my family to bear the burden. I am not saying that a go fund me is the answer but for most they have spent the majority of their money on medical expenses, spend down to afford a nursing home etc. or cashing in policies as they need the money to keep the electric on just to prepare to die. Local trustees have very minimal to offer as well to help. Unfortunately not all make a fortune trapping apparently like some on here must. It is funny how humbling figuring out how to pay for your death becomes when a person is fighting for their life. I know I buried my first wife at the age of 31 due to a fight with lupus. Before one judges maybe consider the circumstances.

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705902
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Here your estate gets a death benefit of 2g.from the gov't. pension plan.A basic cremation and funeral is 5g here.
I have helped pay for a few relatives funerals.Generally family will chip in whats needed.Most will have more than enough thru company pension plan life insurance.

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Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: Ark Trapper] #6705929
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Originally Posted by Ark Trapper
As the coroner for arkansas 2nd largest county,Nd probably the richest it is a problem
I have problems with even getting a lot of family to even choose a funeral home , they want the county to take care of the body. I cringe when we have to transport to my office because without a lot of arm twisting I'm stuck with the body. And most of these have family but don't want to " waste" money on final disposition. Some even try to rearrange with my office and will tell me up front that they want xyz to inherit their funds one even wanted it to go to animal rescue.

Can unclaimed bodies not be donated to science? Like the body farm in Knoxville. I have a 1st cousin that dealt in body parts as part of his job. He said most bodies came from homeless and prisoners. Not to get off topic, but he had a freezer in his garage that he kept the parts in. Mainly sold like a shoulder for surgeons to train on. He stated at the time in NC the practice was pretty much unregulated. I suppose he could of ground the body parts up and sold them as coyote bait???? I never went to a BBQ at his house!


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Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705931
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I’ve heard the “ I’m not rich like you are” for years and years. These people literally have more expendable cash income than working people. It has become an angle in life for a myriad of excuses for staying where they are and having all their needs taken care of for them. A burial policy could be paid for one of the many times they eat out at buffets each month. Some things you just have to live around and know the people to understand of what I’m speaking.

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705970
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We talked about buying final expense plans and I decided to buy some life insurance instead. I qualified for a pretty low premium for an older guy so we took that option. I believe we will be able to cover our expenses as we have both decided on cremation, and I want my ashes dispersed on some areas I frequent. Most of that has been checked out. With the life insurance if there was a cash flow issue short term the family can get a bank loan to cover until the life insurance check comes. By deciding on cremation etc. we have cut our costs by 50% or more. That made more sense to us and our family than prepaying expenses for a more expensive option.

Bryce

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705975
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Yes Scout they can be donated to science in fact Arkansas law states that however they must meet all the criteria before the schools will accept them. And a lot are being turned away because they are at capacity. I think this will be more the norm and a growing problem as we go forward

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705977
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How much is a full body mount?


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Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705990
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Mine is being paid for by NASA...…...no not the space program, North American Swiss Alliance. Have a policy that adjusts to cover a funerial cost, any left over goes to my estate.

"don't want no fancy funeral, just one like old King Tut."

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6705997
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You can donate your carcass to a medical school. They will re-purpose any organs they can and medical students can can cut it up and sew it back together without any chance of harming anyone. Students can learn from your demise to help the living live longer. When the medical school is done with your carcass, about a year usually, they cremate it and give the ash's to your family. Some good will come from your death and your family has more money.


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Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6706003
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Served my country, war vet, US govt will plant me when the time comes... But yeah this business of selling raffle tickets to bury a loved one is really sad

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6706023
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if family won't kick in to help pay for a funeral that is sad.

Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6706026
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I know around here creamation is around $1000. My BIL and dad were talking yesterday, that they believe in NC if the family can make it happen, somehow if they can get you in the ground within 24hrs after death you don't need to be inbalmed. I don't see that happening with the autopsies, morgs dragging feet, slow death certificates????? I know it's different state by state.


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Re: Paying for your own funeral [Re: kytrapper] #6706046
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Cat collector might want to make shutter about that. Here they will provide the space and open and close the grave, that's it. Any other expenses are not covered, casket, vault, embalming,service ect. Whole body donation must be done within 48hrs of death. No contagious disease, must meet hight, and weight requirements, there are also a few more rule outs.
It is a sad deal, I have one in my office now that I can't get family to claim. Hopefully they will tomorrow, may have not wanted to deal well it over Christmas. We notified the father on Monday, he still wont contact us.

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