Re: Growing tobacco
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Used to grow a lot of it to sell.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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My family did also. Only hand made product I recall were "twists". Leaves were tightly twisted to form a loop, and saturated with molasses I think. Men would cut off a chew with their pocket knife. Doubt it was very good. Smoking tobacco is blended with varieties from all over the world. It is aged in wood for many years, and flavors are added.
Think of moonshine vs aged whiskey. One is harsh the other smooth.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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My family did also. Only hand made product I recall were "twists". Leaves were tightly twisted to form a loop, and saturated with molasses I think. Men would cut off a chew with their pocket knife. Doubt it was very good. Smoking tobacco is blended with varieties from all over the world. It is aged in wood for many years, and flavors are added. That's what I grew up on. It was called red ox twist in SE Kentucky. It'd take your head clean off, so it seemed at first. It was good tobacco. I was there in Ripley Ohio when the passing of times occurred, it like many things changed but not in the plus category for Freedom.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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I have grown several varieties for personal use. A Burley, a Virginia Gold, and a Turkish. These are the basic three of a cigarette blend. The seeds are available online with pretty good growing and curing instructions. You tube also has an abundance of videos. I believe it to be a very good skill to learn, for trade stock if using it isn’t your thing.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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I have grown several varieties of tobacco in Colorado, but havent figured out how to turn it into useable product.. It is a fairly fast crop.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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The largest source of tobacco for smoking is flue cured. It is cured with forced hot air. Possible that someone could cure leaves in a hot attic in summer months. Most flue cured tobacco comes from Ga, SC, NC, and VA.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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Growed alot in my area of Ky, as far back as i can remember ,my grandparents aunts uncles etc, would make plugs with leaves, tobacco and oak one on top the other, until a two inch stack was made then pressed . seen several hundred made at a time, used and traded out was actually kinda good in them days..most of the older women would make up alot of pipe tobacco, they would rather smoke pipes on sundays , so they weren't seen with tobacco juice on the wene people visited
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Re: Growing tobacco
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We raised tobacco the whole time I grew up here in the mountains of Virginia what we grew was called burly tobacco it is a long broad leaf and is used for cigar and chewing tobacco and the other is flue cure which is used for cigarettes and snuff. We had a allotment of how much we could raise based on the acreage we owned there were some old timers around that didn't raise anymore but still had their allotments and we would raise them also.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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I can remember my grandpaw talking of the war, all my life i thought it was world wide but as i got older i found out it was mostly in Ky. all to do with tobacco. called black tobacco wars or something like that. found it ,( Black patch tobacco wars Ky ) grandparents said you had to protect your farm ,could shoot anybody on your farm at night no questions ask and authorities would remove the body the next day for you, heresay they were alot of possum hunters committed suicide around that time.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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i have grown it here it grows well. just on a small scale. it has a beautiful flower. i have read people use it for many things like getting rid of mites in chickens and other personal uses. interesting history behind tobacco.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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There is no other smell quite like the aroma of a freshly cured barn of flue cured tobacco. It was a lot of work but for much of the last century, it was one of the best returns per acre of any crop grown in the south. It was labor intensive so cheap labor was a must but it was also raised then without all of the chemicals used today. The chemicals to control the worms and prevent the suckers certainly reduced the labor required but I have always believed that a lot of the health issues with tobacco use were because of the chemicals rather than the tobacco itself.
We ran a dairy farm but also had a small allotment of flue cured tobacco that we raised for lots of years before we leased it out to someone else.
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Re: Growing tobacco
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There is no other smell quite like the aroma of a freshly cured barn of flue cured tobacco. It was a lot of work but for much of the last century, it was one of the best returns per acre of any crop grown in the south. It was labor intensive so cheap labor was a must but it was also raised then without all of the chemicals used today. The chemicals to control the worms and prevent the suckers certainly reduced the labor required but I have always believed that a lot of the health issues with tobacco use were because of the chemicals rather than the tobacco itself.
We ran a dairy farm but also had a small allotment of flue cured tobacco that we raised for lots of years before we leased it out to someone else. Glad to see I'm not the only person who has wondered about this... A steady intake of everything treated with pesticides, mixed with refined sugars and processed ingredients and loaded with chemical preservatives... And we wash it all down with chemically purified water. Tobacco use has declined. But cancer is still going strong. I wouldn't recommend anyone take up using tobacco... But when the nanny state finally manages to stamp out tobacco for good what are they going to blame the raging numbers of cancer on? Guess that's a silly question... Red meat obviously. Mike
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