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Hey Paul ... About backbreaker #6708447
12/28/19 12:13 PM
12/28/19 12:13 PM
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Fredonia, PA.
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I'm using a jar that was opened but kept in the fridge since last year. I don't seem to have the activity around my sets like other years. You reckon that lure can go bad in a year kept in the fridge? Doesn't smell foul but it doesn't smell quite as potent as I remember either.


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Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708455
12/28/19 12:22 PM
12/28/19 12:22 PM
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Asheville, NC
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Taste it.

Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708459
12/28/19 12:23 PM
12/28/19 12:23 PM
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Maybe stir it up good???


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708463
12/28/19 12:25 PM
12/28/19 12:25 PM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
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I've not heard of that happening. PM your address to me and, I'll send a replacement jar to be sure.



Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6708465
12/28/19 12:28 PM
12/28/19 12:28 PM
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Fredonia, PA.
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
I've not heard of that happening. PM your address to me and, I'll send a replacement jar to be sure.

Thanks but no need at this point Paul. I kinda want to see what happens anyway. I was just curious if it has ever been mentioned before. I appreciate it though.


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Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708471
12/28/19 12:35 PM
12/28/19 12:35 PM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
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You may need a change-up lure. They may have gotten the word on Backbreaker and are avoiding it. They will associate danger with an odor when they encounter a relative in distress where that odor is present.



Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6708487
12/28/19 01:01 PM
12/28/19 01:01 PM
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Georgia
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
You may need a change-up lure. They may have gotten the word on Backbreaker and are avoiding it. They will associate danger with an odor when they encounter a relative in distress where that odor is present.


^THIS^

I've never had a jar of Backbreaker, or any other Dobbins lure, "go bad" on me. However, I've had many critters get wise to me and my go to lures. Beaver are especially known for becoming castor shy if they see colony members getting whacked and every set within sight is heavily dosed with castor. This applies to all castor based lures.
For this reason subtlety in lure usage and more visual is my preference. That and a solid performing non castor lure. Woodchipper on peeled sticks is as good as Backbreaker in my book. And Beaver Plus is coming on strong even in areas where flat tails are wise to regular Backbreaker.


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Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708494
12/28/19 01:07 PM
12/28/19 01:07 PM
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Georgia
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Also, change up traps may be needed as well. I may be full of it but I do believe beaver can recognize certain sets if they see them regularly. For instance I rarely use 330s as they are the main trap used in this area almost exclusively half submerged usually with heavy fencing. If I do use them it's fully submerged in channels under dive sticks or other hidden sets. Footholds and cages are my go to in this area.


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Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708499
12/28/19 01:10 PM
12/28/19 01:10 PM
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Lure never goes bad.....had it freeze ...refreeze...add a few drops water to lure to loosen it up....had some odd jars for years...still works


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Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708527
12/28/19 01:38 PM
12/28/19 01:38 PM
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Ashe co. mountains n.c
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Your a class act Paul Dobbins


A trap is only a trap if you dont know about it. If you know about it, its a challenge
Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Paul Dobbins] #6708532
12/28/19 01:42 PM
12/28/19 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
I've not heard of that happening. PM your address to me and, I'll send a replacement jar to be sure.

Well a uhm Paul, as it turns out I have 4 no 5, uhmm no I have 7 yeah 7 jars just like Finsters. grin


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708549
12/28/19 02:04 PM
12/28/19 02:04 PM
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Maine, Aroostook
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I intended on buying some Skunky Backbreaker this year but didn't get around to it. Good stuff, huh? Set me a jar aside, Paul. Maybe two.

Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Posco] #6708930
12/28/19 08:01 PM
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NE North Carolina
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I like the skunky Backbreaker. Its makes cats and coyotes play the Smackdown game

Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708935
12/28/19 08:06 PM
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Like everyone has stated-try some Woodchipper-I tried it this fall with excellent success!tHAT BEING SAID Backbreaker IS MY GO TO BEAVER LURE PERIOD

Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6708939
12/28/19 08:11 PM
12/28/19 08:11 PM
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Northern lower Michigan
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May sound goofy, but am I the only one who gets into a clan of beaver that are kinda smart or have good memories? Your down to the last couple beaver, I stay away a week or so then go back with a feed set using, in my case Lenons muskrat all Call? I have had beaver screw up rat sets in the past, that's why I tried. I don't do it regular, but enough to keep a 1 ounce jar with my beaver bag with my other lures.


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Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6709054
12/28/19 09:25 PM
12/28/19 09:25 PM
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Newark, Ohio 83 years
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A few years back I had a bought my first bottle of Back Breaker and was hoping to find beaver areas. I was also using the white PVC pipe for my coon sets. sets I mad were out in the middle of small streams, I would stuff some dried grass or leaves inside the pipe and the put my coon lure in the pipe and stuff a little more grass in the pipe and smear just a bit of the lure on the lip of the pipe. One day I grabbed a bottle of lure from my kit and headed. When I made the first set, I wondered about the smell, and then I read the label…. Back Breaker... Well, I left and set the other three pipes using the BB. the nex day I had 3 coon and the 4th pip was knocked down, grass pulled out, and the trap tripped.

I later used it trapping Beaver and haven't found anything better, for them too.

Garry-


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Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: varmintshooter] #6709113
12/28/19 10:09 PM
12/28/19 10:09 PM
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Maine, Aroostook
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Originally Posted by varmintshooter
I like the skunky backbreaker. Its makes cats and coyotes play the Smackdown game

Good to know. I'll be picking up some.

Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6709143
12/28/19 10:27 PM
12/28/19 10:27 PM
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I too used skunky Backbreaker this year for the first time and it was awesome stuff. Caught coyotes in dirt holes and pipe dream sets with it.

Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Finster] #6709289
12/29/19 12:11 AM
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When I have to go to the bullpen.....After my starters have done most of the work (Back Breaker and Wood Chipper ) .....it’s time for my closer.... [Linked Image]


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Re: Hey Paul ... About backbreaker [Re: Nessmuck] #6709356
12/29/19 01:35 AM
12/29/19 01:35 AM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
When I have to go to the bullpen.....After my starters have done most of the work (Back Breaker and Wood Chipper ) .....it’s time for my closer.... [Linked Image]


Back about 25 years ago dad sent me a pint of that. He said it was a very good lure. I swear I gave it a good try, but had very little luck down here with it. I know it's a good lure, but I wonder if it's a great lure up north and not so much down south? Maybe it was just me, I dunno.



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