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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710173
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I use snares a lot and wax them to make them last long enough to make a catch-about 3 years at an avg jackpot.Cable rots from the inside out and will fail without any warning.
I check my cable by bending at the ferrel.If its degraded a few strands will snap.When that happens its time to change it out.
Just a lot cheaper and more convenient for me to use wire on traps.


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710204
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Speaking of cable......have you ever jumped up on the tail gate of your truck....and those cables give out....lol


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710293
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It's why I never like loading ATVs or lawnmowers onto a truck bed. No matter how new the truck or how new the replacement cables.

Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710418
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Lots of good info guys. Thanks a lot.

We had a thaw here and some spots it’s ice some not. Ju so happens the runs are thawed but some of the slides are still froze up. This is why I was really trying to use a 330 and see what kind of ideas were out
There. Do beaver always hug the bottom of a run when swimming ?

Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710428
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Yes they will be on bottom entering and exiting the house for quite a ways.
The beaver activity is what keeps the ice thin or open above a run.That is how you identify them.That is where you want to drop your traps.Feel with your feet(chest waders) or with a stick for the sides of the run.This will give you an idea of how many traps you can drop in there.Wider runs you can set two or three side by side.a lot of runs are only wide enough for one trap,you can set a couple or three in series along those runs for multiple catches.
Study some drained beaver ponds in summer so you know what to look/feel for under the ice.


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710433
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Generally...that's how the runs get formed to start with from the beaver's feet kicking on or near the bottom and kicking the bottom out.

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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710610
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I have made it a point to be able to set 100% conibears for beaver. I can make just about any potential spot become a 330 spot. It just depends on how hard I want to work. So yes, I will pass up spots looking for better spots. Par for the course. But if need be I can put in the work and make a good set. I block off big areas with branches, dried grass, ferns, evergreen brush, whatever is handy. You want the beaver to see that there is an obvious best place to go through to get a good sniff of that castor mound. I also like to slick up the other side of the entrance to make it look like lots of other beaver have already gone through there.

Sometimes I will throw a handful of fresh woodchips on the slicked up area for added eye appeal.
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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710611
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You may notice that I have a thin diameter wire attached to the trigger wire ends with ferrules. Not necessary for beaver trapping but I had done some up for otter where it helps get a good neck/chest catch 99% of the time.


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: beaverpeeler] #6710641
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I have made it a point to be able to set 100% conibears for beaver. I can make just about any potential spot become a 330 spot. It just depends on how hard I want to work. So yes, I will pass up spots looking for better spots. Par for the course. But if need be I can put in the work and make a good set. I block off big areas with branches, dried grass, ferns, evergreen brush, whatever is handy. You want the beaver to see that there is an obvious best place to go through to get a good sniff of that castor mound. I also like to slick up the other side of the entrance to make it look like lots of other beaver have already gone through there.

Sometimes I will throw a handful of fresh woodchips on the slicked up area for added eye appeal.
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Good set, have you ever found using no lure for castor mounds works or is it essential for it to work. For example I’m not sure I’m my spot but others spots where pressure is high, would lure in fact spook em ?

Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Boco] #6710644
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Originally Posted by Boco
Yes they will be on bottom entering and exiting the house for quite a ways.
The beaver activity is what keeps the ice thin or open above a run.That is how you identify them.That is where you want to drop your traps.Feel with your feet(chest waders) or with a stick for the sides of the run.This will give you an idea of how many traps you can drop in there.Wider runs you can set two or three side by side.a lot of runs are only wide enough for one trap,you can set a couple or three in series along those runs for multiple catches.
Study some drained beaver ponds in summer so you know what to look/feel for under the ice.


That’s good info for now and the future when I’m lookin for runs being used. Funny, explains why half the beaver pond where the runs are aren’t frozen but the other half is.

I tried conibearing some holes on another spot, the were below surface level and not very cloudy so I figured what the heck I’ll slap a 330 over the hole in the bank but no avail. Must be abandon

Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710806
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Charles Dobbins wrote one of the best beaver books, there are several others about as good but not many any better.

Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6710855
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I will sometimes add a few drops of gliserin mixed with beaver oil to my wood chips and use that in lieu of castor.

As far as setting body grippers in front of den entrances I've had mixed results. So I usually opt for other spots.


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6711307
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Expert beaver trappers ? lol

I fabricate something from the materials handy and lure with a castor based lure of my own making.


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6711380
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Educated how ? And I wouldn't recommend bait on triggers in the two scenarios you mentioned.

Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Boco] #6711403
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Originally Posted by Boco
You don't need to overdo the fencing-just enough to suggest to the beaver that the path of least resistance is thru the trap. [Linked Image]


Boco, I noticed your trigger wires are not spread, they look like they come from the factory, just pushed to the side a bit. Why do you set them like that? Just curious.


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6711521
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I'm tempted to answer for him but Boco will see this tomorrow and tell you.


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: Wblineman] #6711536
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Lets the rats go thru.


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Re: Couple questions for expert BEAVER TRAPPERS [Re: eedup] #6711551
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Originally Posted by eedup
Educated how ? And I wouldn't recommend bait on triggers in the two scenarios you mentioned.


I just mean they seen a lot of trappers, been belly nipped a few times by foot holds, etc

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