Wellness check on James?
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After OSU lost to Clemson has anybody seen him on here? Hope he's OK!
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He has never been OK . Why should he start now
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He could not hold his water. He posted on another thread crying about the officiating. Here is his post quoted below, the bold part is what he had to say: "That interception that sealed the game was not even close to a jersey of the buckeye color."
The receiver zigged when he should have zagged, and fell down. I don't think you can blame that last interception on Fields.
I thought the days of bad officiating deciding games was gone, what with the video replays. I was wrong.
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Clemson, who can't get any respect due to their weak conference, beat Ohio State fair and square in a very competitive game. They still can't get any recognition and Ohio State is whining, especially the coach. The players knew they had been beat and their comments were pretty good. I hope the Tigers/Tigers game is as competitive.
I'm not a football fan, and even I know that wasn't "fair and square". I didn't watch the game, and I'm sure there are plenty of things OSU could have/should have done better. But the fact Ohio State was screwwed out of at least 6 points ( most likely 7) is indisputable to anyone without bias. It really should be a big deal to everyone interested in college football, you simply can NOT have to separate rules for what constitutes a catch, yet that's exactly the way it was officiated. As a non sport fan, it's weird to me that it seems most fans are okay with things like this as long as it benefits their team, or at least goes against a team they want to lose. I would think everyone would want clear and concise rules, because next time it could be their team on the losing end.
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The fact that people think The OSU was screwed should think back to the year TCU was snubbed for The OSU! I’m a Kansas State Fan and if you think your not getting a fair shake try being a non blue blood in NCAA lol! The OSU has leapfrogged many a smaller school for their shot so carry on get better for next year. Oh and yes we beat Oklahoma too.
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The fact that people think The OSU was screwed should think back to the year TCU was snubbed for The OSU! I’m a Kansas State Fan and if you think your not getting a fair shake try being a non blue blood in NCAA lol! The OSU has leapfrogged many a smaller school for their shot so carry on get better for next year. Oh and yes we beat Oklahoma too. Like I said, I'm not a sport fan so I don't know what you're referring to. But it seems maybe you're comparing apples and oranges? It would seem to me that the four teams that get picked is subjective. I'm talking about a blatant problem with the rules. It should never have been allowed to happen, and it certainly should never happen again. The rules need fixed so there is one clear definition of a catch. If that same catch happened, and instead of dropping the ball the carrier steps out of bounds, it would have been called a catch and it wouldn't even be questioned. That's a problem, and it should be a problem for everyone.
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I watched the entire game and was hoping for a OSU win because they are Big Ten.
I thought the officiating was pretty consistent for each team. Both teams were evenly matched, IMO. Either team could have won.
The match up between LSU and Clemson should help to dispel any doubts one way or the other. If LSU trounces Clemson the way they did Oklahoma, they definitely deserve to be called the number one team in the nation. On the other hand, if Clemson beats LSU, that could be proof that LSU probably wouldn't have beaten OSU either. We shall see.
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I think he is OK. Got a private message from him this morning.
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How many steps does a receiver need to take after catching the ball before it's considered a reception? The NCCAA had better decide that question.
That Clemson player took three steps, before he coughed-up the ball. He made three steps trying to evade the OSU tackler, who stripped the ball from his hands.
The call on the field was a reception, fumble, and touchdown. That call was only supposed to be reversed for indisputable evidence. Those refs then said it's indisputable that it wasn't a catch!
How can you look at the videotapes in either real-time or slow-motion and say that's not a catch?
On the whole though, I'm having a good day. Am caught up on my MFA work, and ready to go to Denver on Friday.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding, and I do not claim to be a rules expert by any means, but I thought that in order for it to be a catch, he had to have control of the ball. I thought in that play, the replay showed the ball was still moving throughout those three steps and not firmly controlled, therefore the call was reversed and it was called an incomplete pass since he never had control. I don't think it would matter if it was one step or 20 steps if he was still bobbling the ball the whole time.
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It looked to me like he had control of the ball in his two hands. You can see the defender's hand pry it loose.
I'd like to see the replay again though.
OSU certainly had other chances to win that game, and blew those chances by themselves.
I could say there's always next year, but we'll lose most of our best players to the NFL.
However, there are more important things than football.
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If the Clemson player had taken three steps in bounds, gone out of bounds, and then the defender had pried the ball loose, do you really think they would have called that pass incomplete?
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In slow motion it looked like a catch to me, but watching the replays in real time it didn't look like he ever controlled it.
Two darn good teams, it's a shame one of them had to lose that game.
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How many steps does a receiver need to take after catching the ball before it's considered a reception? The NCCAA had better decide that question.
That Clemson player took three steps, before he coughed-up the ball. He made three steps trying to evade the OSU tackler, who stripped the ball from his hands.
The call on the field was a reception, fumble, and touchdown. That call was only supposed to be reversed for indisputable evidence. Those refs then said it's indisputable that it wasn't a catch!
How can you look at the videotapes in either real-time or slow-motion and say that's not a catch?
On the whole though, I'm having a good day. Am caught up on my MFA work, and ready to go to Denver on Friday.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding, and I do not claim to be a rules expert by any means, but I thought that in order for it to be a catch, he had to have control of the ball. I thought in that play, the replay showed the ball was still moving throughout those three steps and not firmly controlled, therefore the call was reversed and it was called an incomplete pass since he never had control. I don't think it would matter if it was one step or 20 steps if he was still bobbling the ball the whole time. You seriously need to get your eyes checked if you saw the ball move. He caught it and never once did he regrip it or bobble it. I have seen the replay 20 times or so on ESPN and the local news stations. The ball never moved. All the analysts said it never moved. They said it was ruled incomplete because he didn't make a football move. If taking 3 steps while trying to break the tackle isn't a football move, what is? It was a horrible call but it is over. Nothing can be done. Just like how New Orleans got shafted in the NFL playoffs last year. Forget it and move on.
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The more I think about it I'm becoming convinced that the Ohio State fans are just a bunch of freaking whiners. You don't hear Clemson complaining about the officiating!
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding, and I do not claim to be a rules expert by any means, but I thought that in order for it to be a catch, he had to have control of the ball. I thought in that play, the replay showed the ball was still moving throughout those three steps and not firmly controlled, therefore the call was reversed and it was called an incomplete pass since he never had control. I don't think it would matter if it was one step or 20 steps if he was still bobbling the ball the whole time. You seriously need to get your eyes checked if you saw the ball move. He caught it and never once did he regrip it or bobble it. I have seen the replay 20 times or so on ESPN and the local news stations. The ball never moved. All the analysts said it never moved. They said it was ruled incomplete because he didn't make a football move. If taking 3 steps while trying to break the tackle isn't a football move, what is? It was a horrible call but it is over. Nothing can be done. Just like how New Orleans got shafted in the NFL playoffs last year. Forget it and move on. Randy, of course the ball "moved". Impossible not to one the guys hands that were holding the ball rock solid were moving lol. Look liked a bad reversal to me.
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To catch a ball means that a player: Secures control of a live ball in flight with his hands or arms before the ball touches the ground, and Touches the ground in bounds with any part of his body, and then Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e. long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc., and Satisfies paragraphs b, c and d below.
In real time the receiver who was just trying to maintain control of that football ; never had control long enough or well enough to do any of the second part. Solid judgement call by replay. Good play by defender.
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OSU has no room to talk about officiating after that 2003 game against Miami for the National Championship at the end of the 02 season.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you dirt.
I flat out believe it was a catch, the line judge that was standing not less than a few yards away thought it was a catch and even so, I don't believe the replay shows enough proof to overturn the call on the field.
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