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What Killed This Horse #6713457
01/01/20 08:26 PM
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Good friend lost his buddy last night. The horse hase been recovering from a serious injury and was still pretty weak - probably attacked while lying down.
The DNR denied we have cougars around, but now they have them listed as an "endangered" species. (They will be "in-danger" when they kill any livestock!!)
That said, This same guy who owns the horse thought he saw two extremely large coyotes a few months ago - went and looked up what he saw and says they were red wolves.
(I'm sure the DNR doesn't know anything about them - just like the cougars...)

Thoughts on what could have done this?
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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713463
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To me it looks like it died and the eagles or vultures got it.


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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713464
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Where you are at, I would say Yotes. They are everywhere out there. Also, I believe a cat would have started eating in the guts.


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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713467
01/01/20 08:29 PM
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That's not NORMALLY the way wolves eat a critter


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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713477
01/01/20 08:34 PM
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Black vultures

Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713495
01/01/20 08:43 PM
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Yotes start at the other end. Birds start with the eyes.
See it at work alot
Id bet some kinda bird and domestic dog

Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713504
01/01/20 08:46 PM
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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713507
01/01/20 08:47 PM
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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713516
01/01/20 08:54 PM
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cougar usually eats the liver first. starting right behind the ribs. they cover stuff up by kicking sticks grass leaves and dirt over a kill after they eat.

that horse died and birds been eating it

is my best guess

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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713519
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Don't know what killed it, but birds been eating it.


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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: nvwrangler] #6713521
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
Yotes start at the other end. Birds start with the eyes.
See it at work alot
Id bet some kinda bird and domestic dog


Yotes start at other end is right.

I saw one of their big cats we don't have 6 or 7 yrs ago.

Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713525
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If killed by canines the back legs would have been chewed up, unless the horse was a downer.

Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713528
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Chuck Norris needed a snack. Best not to make a big deal of it or he'll work up a real appetite.

Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713537
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Does not look like canine or feline to me. Most walking predators are not going to chew meat off a skull when there is a soft belly and large muscle mass available.

Looks more like birds on a dead critter to me.


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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713549
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was there an open wound on the neck or face ?

every dog or coyote eaten animal i have ever seen was hams first


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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713558
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Probably died of natural causes related to the prior serious injury. Laid there long enough the clean up crew anything that eats meat found it and went to work. Set up a trail cam and watch nature recycle it.

Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: Catpincher] #6713572
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Originally Posted by Catpincher
Probably died of natural causes related to the prior serious injury. Laid there long enough the clean up crew anything that eats meat found it and went to work. Set up a trail cam and watch nature recycle it.

Kinda what I thought, but he said this damage all occurred overnight. The horse was up yesterday and he found it like that this morning.


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Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713585
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Ive seen horses cleand to just bones over night only spots not touched is there it made heavy ground contact.

Re: What Killed This Horse [Re: ShawneeMan] #6713587
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although the eating of that horse don't look like canine, my son was deer hunting early Nov. near you and told me his buddies and himself had seen a rather large pack of wild dogs running. Seen them more than once in fact.

Does look like the horse was probably down and the birds of prey got to it. Along with some possums or other night critters.

as far as the possible wolves, we killed 7 wolves about 70 miles north-west of you back in the 70's.

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