Re: What Killed This Horse
[Re: ShawneeMan]
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01/01/20 09:50 PM
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I say cat kill then eaten by other critters and eagles etc.. I say cat because in every cat kill in witnessed they are taken by the neck. They usually have a broken neck and open flesh/blood wound at point of attack. If just one night old I would set some cameras up to see what you get.
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Re: What Killed This Horse
[Re: il.trapper]
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01/01/20 09:55 PM
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although the eating of that horse don't look like canine, my son was deer hunting early Nov. near you and told me his buddies and himself had seen a rather large pack of wild dogs running. Seen them more than once in fact.
Does look like the horse was probably down and the birds of prey got to it. Along with some possums or other night critters.
as far as the possible wolves, we killed 7 wolves about 70 miles north-west of you back in the 70's. I've personally never seen any wolves in the National Forest or private ground here - but other folks have told me they're here and these are not the kind of people to spin a yarn... Thanks to all!!
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Re: What Killed This Horse
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01/01/20 09:57 PM
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I say cat kill then eaten by other critters and eagles etc.. I say cat because in every cat kill in witnessed they are taken by the neck. They usually have a broken neck and open flesh/blood wound at point of attack. If just one night old I would set some cameras up to see what you get. He's out tonight with a thermal scope on a Remington 700 in 300 Win Mag.
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Re: What Killed This Horse
[Re: ShawneeMan]
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01/01/20 10:50 PM
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Just to clean to be killed, I would say bird of pray and other critters.
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Re: What Killed This Horse
[Re: ShawneeMan]
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01/01/20 11:34 PM
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I would say, like the others... the horse died and the black vultures or other birds of prey started chewing on it. If a large predictor had killed it the area around it would have been disturbed and the only thing disturbed in the blood in the grass around the head and neck area where the predictor was ripping off a chunk and eating it.
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Re: What Killed This Horse
[Re: ShawneeMan]
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01/02/20 10:23 AM
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Every once in a while a lion shows up here in KS. Not often though. Pretty rare.
Made a guy I work for sometimes pretty mad one time. Showed me a trail cam photo of a house cat. When I told him it looked like a house cat he said that is what fish and game told him. He still thinks it is a lion.
Was in the local dinner a few years ago when a guy walks in carrying an edition of the local paper. He is on the front page holding a plaster cast of a dog track. Says: "Look at this. I been telling everyone a mountain lion is living in my pasture". I told him it looked like a dog track and he gets mad. Says that is what fish and game said.
Got a buddy that called me several years ago. Says we found a lion track (him and his wife were trapping together) come out and look. So I did. Was a big dog track. I told him they were going to catch somebodys pet. Few days later they caught a big St Bernard. Dog was friendly and was easily released.
All three of them have the same thing in common. They are fascinated with the idea of a cougar in the neighborhood and convinced themselves one existed where it did not. Don't get caught up in that kind of thinking. Would not surprise me if a lion wanders down into IL from the north. Don't fall into the mind game of telling yourself fish and game is trying to hide them. They are very rare in IL too. Its not good lion habitat. Fish and game is not doing secret releases or claiming something that exists does not.
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Re: What Killed This Horse
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01/02/20 10:41 AM
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9 years ago I found a 600 pound calf that looked about like that in Saline County Kansas and I have wondered ever since then.
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Re: What Killed This Horse
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01/02/20 11:11 AM
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Lions in IllinoisHere is some info. on the big cats in Illinois. It shows cat and dog tracks for comparison. A neighbor had a 300 lb. calf killed about 15 yrs ago. The Game Warden said a cat did it. They asked if they could shoot it, he said there was no law against it since they didn't exist. That law changed in 2015. Some hunters killed that cat on a Conservation Area near there a couple weeks later.
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