Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Well, last night the crap hit the fan. I have an all female team, how that happened is beyond me. I have a new officer who is black. I corrected her( apparently too hard) and was labeled a racist, intimidating and shouldn't have disciplined her for refusing two orders. I was made by my supervisor to apologize. The new officer ( 6 months on duty) is slow a learner and I'm afraid will get myself or a team member hurt. From day one, I have let each new officer know. They all will be treated the same, no favorites, no drama. apparently that doesn't apply when you refuse orders. My other officers have come to my rescue, but apparently that doesn't mean anything with my supervisor. She even said that I treat everyone the same. Very frustrating, now I'm in the hot seat until further notice. I don't believe she will last long. This job isn't for her. But until then, my 12 hour shifts are miserable.
For crying out load, I have friends who are black. God I wish I could retire and move so far from people and back into the woods deeper then I'm am now and not see another person for a very long time.
You can bet, everything will be documented from now on. Ole Sarge is ticked and hurt at the same time. Thanks for listening. Sarge
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
[Re: KeithC]
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The unjustified cry of racism is a weapon used by minorities to bludgeon people into submission. It makes real racists out of non racists and stokes the fires of hate.
Keith X2. The weaponizing of race when in comes to discipline is a big reason for the lack of respect for authority figures, often causing unnecessary deaths.
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Apologizing admits guilt doesn't it?
She was prolly trained to pull the race card faster than her weapon
Affirmative action can get someone killed
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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PC has been beat into our heads for so long people have been conditioned to use and fear it. It’s a tool that has become weapon today
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
[Re: SGT. C]
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I had to apologize. Either get wrote up or worst. I needed to get my supervisor off my tail before I said something I would regret. I choose last night to pick my battles. I have been documenting for sometime now (even on my supervisor). When the time comes if needed. I will take it to the top. Hopefully it will cool down. Her attitude is very smug tonight. I have a very good feeling this isn't her first try at this. Sarge
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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I had to apologize. Either get wrote up or worst. I needed to get my supervisor off my tail before I said something I would regret. I choose last night to pick my battles. I have been documenting for sometime now (even on my supervisor). When the time comes if needed. I will take it to the top. Hopefully it will cool down. Her attitude is very smug tonight. I have a very good feeling this isn't her first try at this. Sarge Yep better keep a journal Feel for ya man !
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Where is your Union on this??? No way in ---- I would apologise for something I didn't do.
Last edited by Boco; 01/02/20 09:20 PM.
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Let her play her game don’t become the focus of her problems let her dig her own hole.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Where is your Union on this??? No way in ---- I would apologise for something I didn't do. I like my job, I want to keep my job. So, I played the game until I don't have to anymore. Unions are few and far between here South Carolina. Right to work state.
Getting old is a fatal mistake
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Properly worded an apology won't admit to anything and will be good enough to get by societies dullards.
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Being right has nothing to do with it it’s all about liability and avoiding issues at all costs.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Too bad you caved in. Why would you apologize for taking proper actions with someone who refused proper orders?
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Being right has nothing to do with it it’s all about liability and avoiding issues at all costs. Yep, of course. Anything to be politically correct, avoid lawsuits, avoid further accusations of racism, and keep from hurting anybody's poor feelings.
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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I don't know if you corrected her in front of the other officer or not, but if you did, never do it again. Then it is only your word against yours. Whether she knows it or not she just jeopardized, her job, her trust from other officers and you. She is now standing by herself. Wait until she needs the advise or confidence in one of the other officers and they turn their back on her. Then she will understand what she has done. I was an LEO to long and I have seen it happen many times. Your officers should be not only behind you, but behind each other.
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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Being right has nothing to do with it it’s all about liability and avoiding issues at all costs. In the law enforcement and high end security industry, employees are mostly never written up unless plans are being made to soon terminate them. The employees file will quickly be filled with sufficient justification for their termination, so that when the time comes, the employer appears to be completely justified in terminating the employee. The employer will interview the employee's supervisors, co-workers and employees and document everything that can be used to terminate that employee. It's often called lining, stacking or poisoning the file. It's standard operating procedure. Nothing usually gets documented before that point, because it could be requested by the lawyer of anyone who sues if arrested or injured by that employee and used against the organization that employs them. Keith
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Re: Rant Time/ Called a racist
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To those saying you should not have apologized they apparently didn't read your opening post "You were made to apologize by your supervisor". If all you did was to correct her without using any name-calling or innuendo then I think your supervisor made an error in judgement.
As long as you do things the right way and by the book, and as long as you know you're not a racist then I think you just move on and keep your head high.
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