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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 02:02 AM
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Looks like it is just my little group of friends.
Guess I will just keep hanging out with them. I like them and and we helping each other out. I do feel bad for those that feel bad about it. Heck, I leave the door open when I go out and take a pee. Just the other day I found my daughters room with a window open. I did not care at all. I guess I can just put that overtime to something we can do together as a family. I would rather spend an extra day in the woods than yelling at my family. I like my time in the woods.
If this aint your type of country, you know what you can do. If it bothers you to have a door or a window open then I don't want to be there.
Plain and simple. I will hang with my people.
Time is more precious than gold if you know how to spend it
.... but what do I know, I'm just a dumb farmer.~My Dad
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 09:11 AM
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Wow, you guys are ready to tar and feather Jerry for when his kid "leaves the door open for a little bit."
Eh...wot?
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 09:19 AM
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I've heated both my camp and home 100% with wood for more than twenty years. There are many times when it's above freezing that even a small fire is too much but it's still too cold not to have any heat. So we'll have a small fire damped down with some windows and even the door open *gasp*.
I've been to people's houses where you get a "look" if you leave the door open for more than a few seconds. It's like they want you to fling the thing open, rush through and slam it shut as fast as humanly possible. Most of those folks pay for their heat.
Don't be those people.
I get what Jerry is saying.
Eh...wot?
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 09:36 AM
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Chainsaw expenses, log splitter expenses, firewood trailer expenses, I have heated exclusively with wood. I prefer my natural gas. Dont have a wood heat stove in the house. got a 50 gallon barrel stove out in the garage from a kit and a cut down one to heat my tent if my natural gas is ever interrupted. I could run a pipe out of a removed window in a couple hours. I had an old brick chimney that i removed quite a few years ago when i put a new roof on. Its nice to just set the dial and not feel a need to toss a chunk of wood in the stove.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 10:06 AM
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I am with you jerry. I can remember my grandfather would have his coal stove going in the living room. Hot as Hattie's in there. He would be in his boxer shorts and tank top.
I sure do miss my wood stove. Might have to install one in the garage.
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 10:30 AM
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Spent 800 bucks bringing mine up to code with a flex stainless TI chimney liner.
That changed the way it flows, for the better. (and safer I'm told)
I guess I coulda spent that on DPs and 60 cents a mile chasing $4 coon, AND the heat bill.
Not everyone has nat gas. Try maintaining an elder oil furnace,
exercise in futility.
Ok, back to the contest, My wood is better.
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 10:45 AM
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Wood heat here for me with a propane gas furnace for back-up. Not going to lose sleep or my cool if the door is left open for a reasonable amount of time. I cut, split, haul and stack all the wood myself from our property but have never scolded anybody for doors or windows left open!
Chris
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: white17]
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01/04/20 11:35 AM
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Sorry, I think you took this the wrong way. I meant that when you walk in and leave the door open for the next person or that you walked out to get something.
The point was that at our house if you are coming back in there is no need to shut the door. We leave the door open if we know we are coming back in or if we know others will be coming in. Many times we open a door or window to cool it down. Just something those that do not heat with wood would not understand. Common sense is ingrained at home. Common sense at our home would say if you are coming right back in to leave the door open. Why spot and juggle what you have in your hands to try and open the door? I guess that would make sense if you heated with gas or electric but we have never done that.
To be fair I put in more time getting firewood than if I just worked a couple overtimes to pay for gas or electric. But that just wouldn't be the same. I would rather not care if the door was left open. But that is just me.
Well I have heated my place with wood for the last 47 years and you darn well better not leave the door open whether it's winter or summer White, I would guess your wood burning experience has been with aspen, spruce/pine or birch. For a midwesterner, that is all crap wood. I burn a little aspen and birch myself and it always amazes me how you can have a roaring fire going in the furnace and it just doesn't seem to heat the house very well. If you are used to getting it up to 70+ in the house you will be making many trips to the furnace to stoke it up and even then it just seems to struggle to actually heat things up. You wouldn't think burning good hardwood would put out that much more heat but it does. I can see why you wouldn't want to loose any heat from your place burning that kind of wood not to mention you have a lot more cold than we do. I burn about 5-6 full cords every year to heat my place. If i had all soft wood i'm sure it would be twice that at least, hence a lot more wood to handle in and out. I could see if that's all that was available it would make wood burning a real PIA.
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 11:38 AM
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A few sticks of tamarack in the stove and you'll be opening windows and doors.Tamarack burns so hot I mix it with a bit of green poplar.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 11:47 AM
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Tamarack/larch is considered junk wood around here, not worth the effort of processing. Sure it burns hot but relatively briefly. Not many BTU's per cord.
Try burning some hickory or locust or oak sometime, you'll be pleasantly surprised. Don't throw too much on at one time though, those species will cook you out of the house for a long time...or you'll be sitting there sweating with all the windows and, yes, even the door open.
Eh...wot?
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 11:55 AM
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The btu's of tamarack birch and ash is about the same,
Ash and birch 23.5 m btu per cord,tamarack 22.5.
Oak is 29,
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: The problem with burning firewood.
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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01/04/20 11:59 AM
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Many fail to realize wood grown in the farther North grows slower and is a lot denser.
They may share the name, but a Pinto wont haul what a F-250 will.
Had an Eastern Larch here, like those planted in strip mines. It grew so fast it was taking over.
I cut and split n dried it.
It was like Lug said.
Pine is another broad term. I have E. White Fir drying now, when it's time it's going in the stove. Contrary to expert opinions. I wont do that with Spruce from here.
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