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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719397
01/07/20 12:39 PM
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I'm a skeptic on birds having that kinda rational thinking

They prolly just taking something new to the nest and when it gets too hot they drop it


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719407
01/07/20 12:58 PM
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Anyone who has been out on the land for the last 50 years knows that winters are not the same now as they were back then,there is definitely a change in the climate,not just the weather and it is continuing to change long term.I know it for a fact by being a harvester,fur manager and actual participant -not from bunk that is published by idiots that have never lived out on the land year in and year out and participated in management of wildlife for their entire life.
All the native elders know it too and will tell you if you ask and those peoples lives depend on the cycles of life in the north,and they know things are changing because they are daily participants also.
I have never been in Australia but I bet if you ask people that live there out on the land and actually depend on the land for their livelihood they will tell you that the climate is not the same as it was 50-60 years ago.Those of you that cant see the changes are the armchair outdoorsmen.
For the record I never said it is man made.

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Boco] #6719423
01/07/20 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Anyone who has been out on the land for the last 50 years knows that winters are not the same now as they were back then,there is definitely a change in the climate,not just the weather and it is continuing to change long term.I know it for a fact by being a harvester,fur manager and actual participant -not from bunk that is published by idiots that have never lived out on the land year in and year out and participated in management of wildlife for their entire life.
All the native elders know it too and will tell you if you ask and those peoples lives depend on the cycles of life in the north,and they know things are changing because they are daily participants also.
I have never been in Australia but I bet if you ask people that live there out on the land and actually depend on the land for their livelihood they will tell you that the climate is not the same as it was 50-60 years ago.Those of you that cant see the changes are the armchair outdoorsmen.
For the record I never said it is man made.

Yea, well that's where the big farce is at Bocostien. Everyone crying how it's manmade, how we started it, how we must stop it and blah, blah, blah. The climate is always changing. Hot cycles, ice ages, moderate times, the point people with two brain cells or more are making is that humans have nothing to do with it. It's a natural cycle. We are not denying climate change, we are denying human caused climate change.


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719424
01/07/20 01:09 PM
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One can definitely see the change to warmer winters, earlier spring, warmer falls here in Alaska. It is really messing with my retirement plans as I need freezing temps to access most of my trapping country. However, I have not seen noticeably hotter temps in summer. Just that above freezing temps come earlier in spring and stay longer in fall.
Hard to say why this is happening!
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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Pete in Frbks] #6719449
01/07/20 01:30 PM
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Pete in Fairbanks.
The ffmc numbers are taken every day and is one of the measurements used to publish the daily fire hazard rating.
These numbers can be looked at over a long period of time and I am sure part of the data used to publish that the last 3 years in Australia has been the hottest and driest on record.
According to Finsters link.


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719466
01/07/20 01:46 PM
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For every action there is a re-action, every time you build a mall, cut trees, fill a marsh. It has a action. The third world country's have grown by leaps and bounds. Look at china, building Air Ports in the ocean. As the weather has changes so has the surface of the earth. JMO

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719468
01/07/20 01:47 PM
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Boco is right in Wyoming we had 9 years of drought before the Yellowstone fires of 1988. Fire managers said that 24 diameter dead trees were tinder dry and could be lit with a match like kindling. Once the fires got going they created there own wind sucking oxygen to fuel the burning fire much like a wood stove. The hot air from the fires created a dryer atmosphere ahead of the fires creating a more dangerous fire situation. As far as people starting the fires how is this proven?? I always read in the papers here when a forest fire is going it is man caused. But have never read how it was proven with evidence or that they ever caught someone and charged them. Not sure about the birds causing more fires but I have watched burning branches from an on going fire go up in the combustion column of a fire and move into a new area loose loft fall and start another fire. In 1988 we had a fire above the ranch and I saw how fast it could move. No use trying to use machines or men to put it out. It either runs out of fuel or rain puts it out. It jumped Caterpillar lines 30 foot wide and kept going. In 1987 and 1988 there were so many fires going out west some were not even responded to for lack of man power. Australia is about the size of North America and has not had rain for 10 years!! I will guarantee there will be more events that occur like this and from the climate change going on. I will admit that climate change has been going on since day one, but it is off the chart since the industrial age.

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719486
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The fires in Australia are changing to surface of the earth in a big way. So will the weather change in some small way.
I see on the News that 22 people have been arrested for setting fires in Australia.

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719489
01/07/20 02:13 PM
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No Danvee, it is not off the chart. The earth's climate has been much hotter in times past.

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719490
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If you really believe there was such a thing as dinosaur's, maybe climate change killed them off. Just bet them cave men was burning too many campfires, the time might be off 50 millions years or so. But it sounds good so go with it. The cave man killed everything off with climate change or is it global warming?

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Foxpaw] #6719563
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ADAPT OR DIE !!!!!!! eek

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Boco] #6719577
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Originally Posted by Boco
Well it says all the fires in the past were started by arsonists also.The method of starting the fires is irrelevant it is the rate of spread and the difficulty putting them out that is different.



Yeah

Probably have a bunch of Commie tree huggers over there that won't let anyone clear the land either!?

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719581
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I thought commies were collective farmers?
Commies don't really have protection of the environment as a top priority-Have you heard of the Aral sea?Chernobyl?Murmansk?


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719587
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Here's a link to a black kite actually carrying fire. I suspect the drop was edited in from a human throw though.

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=420626738710256&_rdr

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: teepee2] #6719589
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Originally Posted by teepee2
ADAPT OR DIE !!!!!!! eek

laugh


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719596
01/07/20 04:49 PM
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The sky is falling

Better give more money to the collective brains

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Boco] #6719601
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Originally Posted by Boco
I thought commies were collective farmers?
Commies don't really have protection of the environment as a top priority-Have you heard of the Aral sea?Chernobyl?Murmansk?


Real commies are starving and have higher priorities than protecting the environment.

Liberal, Western nation, wannabe commies are more idealistic, because there is not enough other idiots like them yet to cause the inevitable starvation, that goes with communism.

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Boco] #6719645
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Originally Posted by Boco
I thought commies were collective farmers?
Commies don't really have protection of the environment as a top priority-Have you heard of the Aral sea?Chernobyl?Murmansk?



Been to California lately?

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719663
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Doesn't California produce most of the market garden crop for NA.?Good commie farmers.


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719666
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Lol

Wow!

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