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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6719995
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You definitely would have to respect and take into account a dangerous animals ability to do you some harm if you wanted to have a chance to come out on the winning end of an encounter.In some cases a strategic retreat may be in order.

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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: 52Carl] #6719997
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
I would not want to go hand to hand combat with a house cat which was dedicated to killing me. A wolf? That's just stupid.



No kidding!

You reminded me of my squirrel encounter.

Yeah

I think I'd just make sure it bit my head 1st!

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720004
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As far as no weapons not going to happen as I always have a gun.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720012
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Originally Posted by shortliner16
Oh, no weapons either. Forgot that part


Well than....no


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720016
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Originally Posted by shortliner16

Could you survive a one on one attack from a 100lb timber wolf and only one of you is coming out alive?


Goldilocks, and the three little pigs made out all right !!! laugh

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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720022
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I think it depends a lot on your mentality. I used to deliver newspapers as a kid. Had to deal a lot with large dogs. Mostly non-customer dogs. One day I was not in a good mood during delivery.  This one house I passed had a German shepherd that used to harass me. That day I wasn't having it. I planted my Herman Survivor boot right into its chest and lifted the dog right off the ground.  Its owner had a fit and threatened to call the police  , I said go ahead. Sited the fact we have a leash law and I was in the street and not on his property. Police were not called.  That dog since that would not get within 10 feet of me. It was afraid of me after that.


I am not afraid of any dog. Think about it , all a dog or other canine can do is bite you. You have two arms and two legs. You can do a lot to a canine that they have no defensive recourse.  Even if a pit bull clamps down on your leg , you can choke it to death. If it clamps down on your arm , you can kick it or crush it's ribcage with a knee or your whole body weight just like a WWE wrestler.  You can even pick the dog up and body slam it. Grabbing a dogs legs and ripping with great force in the wrong direction to dislocate or break its legs is another option. Eyes are another good target. Getting close in as in a pit bull clamping onto you would be a fatal mistake for the animal. I would want to close in as possible as opposed to a bite and retreat attack. 

Dogs/canines are a lot more fragile than you would think. Breaking a canine's leg is easy. Breaking a dogs neck is probably difficult but if you grab it's head and twist as hard as you can in one direction until it is spun 180° or more is going to cause damage or enough pain to get it to stop attacking. The key is mentality. You need to absolutely go SAVAGE on the animal. It is going savage on you. A bite and retreat attack allows you enough time/space to acquire anything to use as a weapon. 


If police ever sent a dog onto me , I would be facing charges for killing the dog.


I have 2 arms , 2 legs and a much larger brain. I can also bite. I am also an apex level predator.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720023
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Well if your boss thinks he can take the wolf, i'd sure like to have a front row seat to the show !

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720032
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On second thought no weapons so the wolf can't use it's teeth.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: Cragar] #6720041
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Originally Posted by Cragar
  Even if a pit bull clamps down on your leg , you can choke it to death.



If you get the opportunity to try this with a 100# pit bull I want to see the video.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720043
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If I could I would put my thumb and middle finger in his eyes as far as I could. The eyes are the best & closed weakest avenue to there brain. JMO

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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: MnMan] #6720074
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Originally Posted by MnMan
Originally Posted by Cragar
  Even if a pit bull clamps down on your leg , you can choke it to death.



If you get the opportunity to try this with an 100# pit bull I want to see the video.

There will be no video. I do not want to do this , I will need stitches. It is also considered animal cruelty.

This is just purely fight to survive. There are no rules. Choking a pit bull would be difficult , however crushing it larynx is probably going to happen just enough to get it to release.

Kill or be killed. Be the bigger predator to survive. It is all about mindset.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: Cragar] #6720077
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Originally Posted by Cragar
I think it depends a lot on your mentality. I used to deliver newspapers as a kid. Had to deal a lot with large dogs. Mostly non-customer dogs. One day I was not in a good mood during delivery.  This one house I passed had a German shepherd that used to harass me. That day I wasn't having it. I planted my Herman Survivor boot right into its chest and lifted the dog right off the ground.  Its owner had a fit and threatened to call the police  , I said go ahead. Sited the fact we have a leash law and I was in the street and not on his property. Police were not called.  That dog since that would not get within 10 feet of me. It was afraid of me after that.


I am not afraid of any dog. Think about it , all a dog or other canine can do is bite you. You have two arms and two legs. You can do a lot to a canine that they have no defensive recourse.  Even if a pit bull clamps down on your leg , you can choke it to death. If it clamps down on your arm , you can kick it or crush it's ribcage with a knee or your whole body weight just like a WWE wrestler.  You can even pick the dog up and body slam it. Grabbing a dogs legs and ripping with great force in the wrong direction to dislocate or break its legs is another option. Eyes are another good target. Getting close in as in a pit bull clamping onto you would be a fatal mistake for the animal. I would want to close in as possible as opposed to a bite and retreat attack. 

Dogs/canines are a lot more fragile than you would think. Breaking a canine's leg is easy. Breaking a dogs neck is probably difficult but if you grab it's head and twist as hard as you can in one direction until it is spun 180° or more is going to cause damage or enough pain to get it to stop attacking. The key is mentality. You need to absolutely go SAVAGE on the animal. It is going savage on you. A bite and retreat attack allows you enough time/space to acquire anything to use as a weapon. 


If police ever sent a dog onto me , I would be facing charges for killing the dog.


I have 2 arms , 2 legs and a much larger brain. I can also bite. I am also an apex level predator.









The problem is that you gained your confidence by kicking a pet dog.

I guarantee you would never kick a wolf.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: MnMan] #6720078
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Originally Posted by MnMan
Originally Posted by Cragar
  Even if a pit bull clamps down on your leg , you can choke it to death.



If you get the opportunity to try this with a 100# pit bull I want to see the video.

It would go viral


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720090
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Slim... about 30 years ago I had a timber wolf for a pet. ( yes, it was legal) I got him as a pup and spent a lot of time with him inside and outside of his oversized kennel. Whatever he ate was gone in seconds even though there wasn’t any competition for the food. He inhaled everything.. only chewing enough to swallow whatever it was.

One winter day I went into his kennel and he immediately lunged and pulled me down. He was viciously shaking and pulling me around on the ground. Before I even realized what was happening it was over. He ripped the fur trimmed hood and a large part of my parka off in a few seconds. The fur trim was all it took to trigger that reaction, if he wanted to harm or kill me I’m pretty sure he could’ve very easily. And that was only one wolf.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: Cragar] #6720093
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Get the shovels out its getting a bit deep in here,lol.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6720107
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Jurrasic , this is not the only time I have gone toe to toe with a large dog. It has happened a few times , not exactly proud of it either.
Had a guy I know who thought his dog was the meanest on the block. I told him I was not afraid of it. He commanded the dog to attack me.

Making a long story short , 10 seconds later , he was pulling me off the dog as I went nuts on it.

I am not afraid of any dog. That is the key. No fear. Just attack with everything you have.


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a wolf would be a handful. could bust the top of his nose like you do a coyote. make a fist and club it with the side of it on the bridge of his nose. then bust its skull with a limb or rock or whatever else you can get hold of. maybe. you would need some medical care. might still die if you cant stop the bleeding.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: MnMan] #6720134
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Originally Posted by MnMan
Originally Posted by Cragar
  Even if a pit bull clamps down on your leg , you can choke it to death.



If you get the opportunity to try this with a 100# pit bull I want to see the video.



Nope!

Tried!!!!

Poked it in the eye and jumped in the back of a truck.

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Had a big male red chow grab my left arm and pulled me to my knees years ago. Luckily (for me) I took a wild swing and my thumb went in his eye, he let go instantly and wanted nothing else.
Doubtful that would work on a wolf but hey, the eyes are the groin of the head.

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HA HA-I remember a buddy of mine snared a big wolf beside the rr track by the dump.
We stopped the motor car,the big wolf was still alive in the snare but wound up pretty tight.
Glen asked me to hand him a pick handle.Glen was about 6-2 200lb half Cree and strong as a bull.He wound up with all he had and hit the wolf hard right on top of the head.The wolf just stood there,and blinked about 4 times.His legs didn't even buckle a bit.
Went back to the bunkhouse and got a gun.
If you have ever skinned a big mature wolf there is a heck of a lot of thick muscle on top of the head.

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