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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719676
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Originally Posted by Boco
Doesn't California produce most of the market garden crop for NA.?Good commie farmers.


California probably has more conservatives than any other state, including most of California's farmers. The conservatives are unfortunately outnumbered by liberals in California.

There were 39.56 million people in the state of California in 2018, which is just one of our 50 states. All of Canada only had 37.59 million people in 2019.

Keith

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719682
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They could be their own country then? is that your point?

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: KeithC] #6719683
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Boco
Doesn't California produce most of the market garden crop for NA.?Good commie farmers.


California probably has more conservatives than any other state, including most of California's farmers. The conservatives are unfortunately outnumbered by liberals in California.

There were 39.56 million people in the state of California in 2018, which is just one of our 50 states. All of Canada only had 37.59 million people in 2019.

Keith

Can we send the libtards to Canada? They won't even notice..... grin


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719685
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We're putting up a wall in case you start conscription for the Iran war.

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719801
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Boco never seems to fail if someone has an opinion other than the extreme right your wrong and a libertard, commie, and what ever else they can throw at you. Im guessing that atomic testing has no negative effects on the atmosphere and all the chemicals going in the water are safe. Mining asbestos and all the good toxins that go into the air are good for your health, including all the plastic that goes into the ocean. We will never run out of resources be it water, minerals or oil. Yeah humans have no effect on the earth at all its just a government plot to scare us into being worried so we vote the right way. Go start your car in the garage, skin a few coons with the doors and windows shut, don't worry, you will be safe and the pelts will be worth $50 bucks each.

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: danvee] #6719941
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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Boco] #6719952
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Originally Posted by Boco
We're putting up a wall in case you start conscription for the Iran war.

I'll help!


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6719982
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Earth was a Greenhouse once...before the Ark...
Too bad the money wasnt thrown at that....rain might have been stopped.

Dinosaurs wish The climate hadnt cycled ....well they wished big monet and carbon footprint plan had been there to Save the Day crazy

Yup...we should all be ashamed and change our lifestyles to Save MotherEarth.

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6720010
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There's a fire in my fireplace right now, but i'm pretty sure it wasn't global warming that started it.

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Pete in Frbks] #6720120
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Climate issues notwithstanding, a huge part of the problem in much of Australia is fuel (grass, brush, trees.) buildup. Many of the prescribed fire (fuel reduction projects) get torpedoed by the plethora of Green groups that are overpopulating the urban portions of the Australian continent. (Ironically, the same whack jobs who like to blame everything on climate change!)

"Rate of spread" and "resistance to control" are NOT necessarily a function of long term environmental conditions. They are more often a function of weather, not climate. For example, resistance to control can also be a function of lots of downed timber (large fuels) on the ground, restricting firefighter movement...

FFMC (Fine Fuel Moisture Content under the Canadian Fire Danger Rating System) is definitely not an function of climate. It is a function of the weather in the immediate area over the past 12-24 hours. Geesh Boco....

I've worked in fire management for over 50 years myself. I have also fought fire in Australia (and some other countries.)

Political junkies are always trying to find ways to blame "climate change" for everything from wildland fires to athlete's foot and bad breath.... give it a rest!

Pete



right on, Pete! fuel moisture content is a function of WEATHER, not climate.

and lest we forget...

https://www.investors.com/politics/...admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: danvee] #6720165
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Originally Posted by danvee
As far as people starting the fires how is this proven?? I always read in the papers here when a forest fire is going it is man caused. But have never read how it was proven with evidence or that they ever caught someone and charged them. ... I will admit that climate change has been going on since day one, but it is off the chart since the industrial age.


there are arsonists sitting in jail right now for starting wildfires.

re: climate change since the industrial age...a correlation in time does NOT constitute a scientific cause and effect relationship. PERIOD.


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6720499
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Look it up. They cried Ice age in the 1970's. We were all gonna die. And to that i say, Why yes, yes we will. Every last one of us. We always have.

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: white marlin] #6720501
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And is published daily during fire seasons,so it is part of the data used to figure out the hottest dryest years,which in Australia have been the last 3 years and is continuously getting dryer.

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6720505
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So we're in a new 100 year or 1,000 year cycle

No one can say FOR SURE....Weathermen weren't around 500 to how many years ago.

Models and charts telling us what happened When are all guesses


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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Finster] #6720550
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They can read the ice cores like tree rings from the arctic regions and glaciers to get a good idea of the climate over the last thousand years or so.Apparently there was a very cold period around the 1600's or so,and before that a warmer than normal period around 1000 ad.I believe we are in one of these natural fluctuations.

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: squacks] #6720637
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Originally Posted by squacks
Look it up. They cried Ice age in the 1970's. We were all gonna die. And to that i say, Why yes, yes we will. Every last one of us. We always have.



I remember.

We had an assembly in the high-school auditorium sometime in the mid-seventies about this half-baked scheme to spread fly ash over the polar ice caps to reverse the coming ice age.

I didn't put much stock in climatologists then and still don't. Too many lies, too many politics for their opinions and consensuses to be believable.


Eh...wot?

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Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6721166
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Where are all our believers " GOD CONTROL'S ALL WEATHER " if the climate never changed the glaciers would still be done in central Missouri no they've been retreating for awhile now.

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: Boco] #6721282
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Originally Posted by Boco
We're putting up a wall in case you start conscription for the Iran war.


And Mexico is going to pay for it. Lol

Re: Climate Change PROOF! Australia [Re: white marlin] #6721322
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by danvee
As far as people starting the fires how is this proven?? I always read in the papers here when a forest fire is going it is man caused. But have never read how it was proven with evidence or that they ever caught someone and charged them. ... I will admit that climate change has been going on since day one, but it is off the chart since the industrial age.


there are arsonists sitting in jail right now for starting wildfires.

re: climate change since the industrial age...a correlation in time does NOT constitute a scientific cause and effect relationship. PERIOD.


There is more to the claim than time. It's based on changes in weather patterns of an area. For example.. the years middle Georgia gets some snow - those years are unusual, but aren't considered a pattern due to a short observation time and the amount of time between those years, so it's unlikely due a change in climate - just some cold winters.

A region's climate is determined by the variations in weather observed over a set amount of time. Patterns that occur regularly over, say, 100 years. According to this site it's usually about 30 years, but there's no harm in going farther back in time Like millions of years ago, the climate was much more hot and humid than it is today. Dinosaurs loved it, and reptiles ruled the Earth.. until that pesky asteroid changed the Earth's climate and mammals took their place. Time alone is not a cause/effect, but once you observe regular patterns in weather over long periods, that for some reason change dramatically and keep doing so... It's inevitable that the curious would ask questions as to why that is happening. Then, you know, the scientific method is used and blah blah blah.

It could be random that all these unusual weather changes are occurring in multiple places about the globe in such a short amount of time (~5 years ago is when I started noticing it locally).
I recently watched a documentary about the fires in Cali.. one firefighter/officer noted that although he continued to tell his wife the huge fires were unusual, she asked him whether it was actually unusual after he'd said it every year since 2010 (or something, I can't recall the exact time period). A new weather pattern had been observed by a citizen - more intense fires due to drier weather in the region. I wouldn't bet on such a change being temporary after such consistency.

Obviously I'm talking about a whole different part of the world, but who's to say it couldn't apply in Australia?

I cann't deny Pete's point, of course. It's not something I would've ever thought nor known of. It's a shame folks are so against prescribed burns when they do help the environment to a degree. Shame if that is the case (aside from a-hole teenagers setting fires in dangerous conditions).


Feel free to not believe in it.
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