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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6721151
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The odds are getting better every year that I will be attacked by wolves. Since they only attack the old and the weak. smile


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: white17] #6721154
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Originally Posted by white17
But I defy you to hit a wolverine with a stick on the first try.



So that's where the brown paper bag comes in handy. Should work on a wolf too if the rules allowed it.

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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6721159
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Seems to me that it's rare that a wolf is alone and wouldn't they be more likely to attack if they were not alone? Just thinking out loud.

Wolf society is so ordered with dominance that I often wonder if a wolf would break off an attack if it felt it was being dominated. Also, if other wolves are in the vicinity, I wonder if the dominant wolf attacks and you show signs of overpowering it, would the others back off? If they saw that you were being overpowered would they also attack?

Lot's of variables... like I said, just thinking out loud. I haven't been around wolves that much, I've only seen them in person up close in the wild a handful of times. So I may be way off base.

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: MnMan] #6721167
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Originally Posted by MnMan
Originally Posted by white17
But I defy you to hit a wolverine with a stick on the first try.



So that's where the brown paper bag comes in handy. Should work on a wolf too if the rules allowed it.

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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6721222
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To survive a wolf attack. You just need to out run the person your with.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6721224
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I"ve read some on why police dogs are so effective, and it basically boils down to the fact that they do not give up, ever. They don't pull away when hurt, and they aren't afraid. A gun or knife means nothing to them, pain means little. They have no idea what a gun or knife is, so the only way it can be effective against a canine is if you actually stick it in them or pull the trigger. Pain doesn't mean much of anything if it doesn't incapacitate them. A stab to the eye won't deter them at all, because their teeth and one eye still work. Think of it like this....when you fight a person, even to the death, a gun or a knife might scare them and make them hesitate. Pain might make them pull away for fear of getting hurt worse. But it doesn't work like that for dogs. Bashing a dog in the head won't make it run away because it doesn't want to get bashed again, it just keep attacking. But when the dog bites you, you pull back, because you don't want to get hurt. It comes down to a different mindset between you and the dog/wolf.

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6721234
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Here is a example of a 90 pound wolf and I am 6 foot . It would be a tough fight for sure [Linked Image]

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: Team V] #6721249
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Originally Posted by Team V
Here is a example of a 90 pound wolf and I am 6 foot . It would be a tough fight for sure [Linked Image]


Wow! No wonder they are killing all the game.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: Cragar] #6721259
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Thanks for posting the link but that wasn’t the one I was referring to the leopard in that instance was wounded in the hind leg. I tried a search after I posted and couldn’t find the story I was looking for. Found a couple others, one was a seventy something old farmer ripped the tongue out of a leopard and choked it to death. Another was a jogger in Colorado killed a mt lion with his hands.
I believe as others have said with wolves where there is one there are others = human is done.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: cmcf] #6721333
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Originally Posted by cmcf
Thanks for posting the link but that wasn’t the one I was referring to the leopard in that instance was wounded in the hind leg. I tried a search after I posted and couldn’t find the story I was looking for. Found a couple others, one was a seventy something old farmer ripped the tongue out of a leopard and choked it to death. Another was a jogger in Colorado killed a mt lion with his hands.
I believe as others have said with wolves where there is one there are others = human is done.


I agree with you on that , no chance against a pack or even just 2 wolves. 1 wolf , you have a chance. Maybe not a good chance , but there are documented cases were people ( even some elderly ) have successfully fought off an attack with no training or experience with a wild animal. Those cases also usually involve a rabid animal.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: Boco] #6721828
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Originally Posted by Boco
Once he got a hold of you by The throat or back of the neck or crotch you would be done.Wolves have enough musculature in their skull to give the jaw a crushing bite,they can crush moose bones.
If I had a choice of weapon(other than a firearm) to face down a wolf it would be a stout club.


My experiences with wolves as a guide, the bears would come in first to eat the gut piles. Then the wolves came in and ate every bit of bones and every other trace of the animal.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6721858
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seen a lad take a police dog to the ground and kill it..was last seen floating off down a river, that didnt take 30 seconds and only one bite to the arm..didnt look much fun but my guess is a wolf 2x3 times the size in the snow and its a pro would be a LOT less fun i would think.
maybe a few men in a hundred that get lucky would do it...

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6722126
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Wolves kill large game animals on a regular basis.They are good at it and know how.An unarmed human would be no problem for them.
Wolves are wary of humans,but will follow people in the bush from a distance and you will never know they are there unless they want you to know.On the couple of occasions when I have encountered a wolf pack in the fall while beaver trapping,I have heard wolves all around me close,howling and whistle-barking to each other,but none ever showed themselves.I believe they were hunting beaver.It is a bit un nerving when you know they are there and close.
Many times I have done a large loop in the bush and seen fresh wolves on the backtrack never knowing they were there likely only a couple hundred yards behind.
Other people on moose stands have observed wolves in clearcuts following another hunter and keeping out of sight of him on the backtrack.
These wolves are not hunting-when wolves hunt they spread out on the flanks and cut off the prey.They are both wary and curious when they follow like this.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6722171
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Just using the equipment man and wolf were born with and with equal intent to actually kill, the wolf is better equipped in my opinion.

That being said, I think Savell could slap tame one into submission and make it his woman but doubt that he could actually kill it with his bare hands.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6722211
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Originally Posted by shortliner16
Alright, my boss asked me a question that I think will get some interesting answers.
Could you survive a one on one attack from a 100lb timber wolf and only one of you is coming out alive?
My boss is convinced he could take the wolf, but he is a wrestler so has a skewed version of his real life strength and ability lol.

They break the leg bones of Bison and moose to get at the marrow by cracking them open with their jaws. Your boss's arm bones are a heck of a lot thinner than a buffalo's leg. There is a video out there of three wolves killing a full grown Yellowstone bull bison. Could three of your boss wrestle a bull buffalo to the ground?

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: cmcf] #6722215
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Originally Posted by cmcf
Thanks for posting the link but that wasn’t the one I was referring to the leopard in that instance was wounded in the hind leg. I tried a search after I posted and couldn’t find the story I was looking for. Found a couple others, one was a seventy something old farmer ripped the tongue out of a leopard and choked it to death. Another was a jogger in Colorado killed a mt lion with his hands.
I believe as others have said with wolves where there is one there are others = human is done.

The jogger in Colorado that killed the lion did it with a starving 60lb. one year old kitten.

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: Boco] #6722245
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Originally Posted by Boco
Wolves are wary of humans,but will follow people in the bush from a distance and you will never know they are there unless they want you to know.


I had one follow me and a couple of buddies up a valley above timberline while we were prospecting for sheep season. I happened to turn around and saw something black and my first thought was black bear. It was a large, black wolf. It showed no sign of fear or aggression and I could have easily shot it. It was definitely following us. I don't think it's uncommon.

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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6722287
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I know a guy who survived an attack by a ferocious german shepherd by grabbing and breaking its jaw down. The dog could do nothing and was in severe pain. The destruction to the dog was gruesome.


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Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6722402
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After having recently taken a wolf of substantial size I doubt most would survive unarmed.

Re: Chance of surviving wolf attack? [Re: shortliner16] #6723145
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I was attacked by a Great Dane once and let’s just say it did not end well for him. Your first reaction is most likely going to decide your fate. I have a natural instinct to instantly go into live and death mode and fight to win, I think I would have a good chance of survival as long as I’m not taken down at the neck.


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