Re: New CWD info
[Re: wetdog]
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You guys don't really believe that CWD bullcrap do you? Just follow the money. Follow the money? You ever seen deer with CWD? Pretty sure that wont make you any money.
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Re: New CWD info
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You guys don't really believe that CWD bullcrap do you? Just follow the money. Follow the money? You ever seen deer with CWD? Pretty sure that wont make you any money. No will not make you money, but look at the laws they put in place to take your money, if you don't follow obey them. Do you really think all those zombie deer articles were put out for you're safety No thy were put out by ANTI HUNTING GROUPS. PERIOD! !!!!!!!!! WAKEUP PEOPLE
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Re: New CWD info
[Re: corky]
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Another hypothesis, he said, is the disease might have crossed species. CSU was conducting scrapie research on domestic sheep and the sheep and deer were together in pens at times. I am not alone in thinking that penning up deer with sheep that had scrapie is where the disease came from. The research BTW was being done in concert with USFWS. It wasn't funded or initiated by the college https://www.coloradoan.com/story/ne...g-disease-linked-fort-collins/878097002/
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Re: New CWD info
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If I follow the money, it leads back to some in the domestic deer industry that don't want their market impacted by science. 26 states have documented CWD. Yep, they are all in on "it". However, if I was a deer rancher, I would want to know how to protect my investment and livelihood. bingo
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Re: New CWD info
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If I follow the money, it leads back to some in the domestic deer industry that don't want their market impacted by science. 26 states have documented CWD. Yep, they are all in on "it". However, if I was a deer rancher, I would want to know how to protect my investment and livelihood. bingo Correct
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Re: New CWD info
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Dang, I need to work for the guvment. Just think I can get paid for make believe moon landings, alien crash landings, and deer diseases and never have to worry about being found out because we all know everything is fake but nothing anyone can do about it.
You idiots that refuse to accept reality based on whatever schizophrenic notion hits you are to be pitied. I applaud wetdog, if for anything his just skepticism. If you don't think the anti's have successfully infiltrated DNR's, DOW's, F&G's, then I don't know what to tell ya. I don't know enough about CWD to know if it's real or not, I'm not a sponge that sits and soaks up everything and calls it truth. I do know to be wary of, and do my best to not allow "reality" to be a subjective term.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: New CWD info
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[quote=Muskrat][quote=Ole]If I follow the money, it leads back to some in the domestic deer industry that don't want their market impacted by science. 26 states have documented CWD. Yep, they are all in on "it". However, if I was a deer rancher, I would want to know how to protect my investment and livelihood. bingo Correct Agree...
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Re: New CWD info
[Re: corky]
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What I do know, in northern NY because of the deep snow pack, people fed deer during winter for decades, and we never heard of CWD. Then a few years ago 1 deer tested positive for CWD at a enclosed deer herd. A taxidermist had penned deer and routinely let his fawns run free inside his taxidermist shop where he mounted western mule deer and elk. That’s where they figure it came from.
After thousands of wild deer were killed around this guys area, and tested , no other positive CWD were or have been found.
Now it’s illegal to feed wild deer in NY because according to the government experts, it helps spread CWD by concentrating deer in one area ?? Have you ever heard of a wintering yard ?? Deer naturally concentrate in winter at least here, and have been doing it forever.
My question is, NY has not had a positive case of CWD for now almost 2 decades, how is the disease spread by concentrating them, if it does not exist here ?
In the meantime in NY more deer are dying of malnutrition during winter than ever died of CWD.
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Re: New CWD info
[Re: M.Magis]
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LOL It's amazing how people react to something yet make little attempt to understand it. CWD didn't "come from" anything, it's a natural disease that was found in wild deer over 70 years ago. And no, it's not the same as Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (mad cow disease). Until they determine how, or IF, the disease can spread from one animal to another, these studies aren't providing any useful info. Considering how long they've been researching the disease and the fact they still can't find evidence that it's contagious, we need to consider the possibility that it's not contagious. For some reason, CWD was made into a MUCH bigger deal than it is. People should be much more concerned with EHD. Could you please elaborate on the connection non-connection between cwd and mad cow. Take your time I won't be near wi-fi for a few hrs.
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Re: New CWD info
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In the meantime in NY more deer are dying of malnutrition during winter than ever died of CWD.
If the deer are dying from malnutrition, there are too many deer to start with. Artificially propping up the population with winter feeding might make people feel good, but it's not good the environment.
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Re: New CWD info
[Re: corky]
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One thing is pretty easy to understand. Just look at a map of all the locations where CWD has been confirmed. Real easy to see it did not spread by natural animal movement. There was some trucks involved.
There is also a level of it being contagious because it does spread but the experts still are not sure all of the ways it can be transmitted. They do know that the prions do not just go away and they know they are difficult to destroy (takes extremely high heat, much above any temps in cooking). They have also removed all animal from and enclosure, cleaned it up the best they know how and waited several years before putting deer back in the same area only to have the new deer have CWD.
There is no test to detect in in a live animal. There is no known treatment once a deer shows symptoms. Only after they die or are killed, can CWD be confirmed.
They also do not know for sure if it is transmissible from cervids to other species, ie., humans.
The learning curve seems to have been pretty slow and that is likely because there is not a lot of money to fund the research. Where is the potential return on investment for the researchers? Follow the money or the lack thereof.
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