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Re: Jeremiah Johnson question [Re: upstateNY] #6725379
01/11/20 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by gryhkl
Maybe the prop guy just though the gun would look cool in the shot.

like when the kid smelled the beaver lure and almost puked,hahaha. Any good beaver lure use I enjoy the smell of.nice castor or birch or poplar oil smell.


His beaver lure sure looked pretty watered down. Also, the jaws on the trap Caleb placed were far from level.

Re: Jeremiah Johnson question [Re: wv4ster] #6725386
01/11/20 10:58 PM
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Considering that the movie is based on the story of Liver Eating Johnson who’s life started in 1824 and ended in 1900 I would say the type and kind of gun carried by Indians or settlers runs a whole gambit, for that matter I always figured it was a double barrel shotgun

But then again who ever said Hollywood ever stuck to actual facts and historical accuracy



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Re: Jeremiah Johnson question [Re: wv4ster] #6725396
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Re: Jeremiah Johnson question [Re: wv4ster] #6725428
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Jeremiah Johnson is on right now on the outdoor channel (606 direct tv) !! It will be starting over again in a couple minutes. I am watching it...….. again.....


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Re: Jeremiah Johnson question [Re: upstateNY] #6725547
01/12/20 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by gryhkl
Maybe the prop guy just though the gun would look cool in the shot.

like when the kid smelled the beaver lure and almost puked,hahaha. Any good beaver lure use I enjoy the smell of.nice castor or birch or poplar oil smell.

I do nose hits on mine.

Re: Jeremiah Johnson question [Re: coonlove] #6725601
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Originally Posted by coonlove
Originally Posted by gryhkl
I read that cape guns were sometimes gifted to natives.


North west trade gun was the typical Indian firearm. some fancier "chiefs grade" smoothbores were also
Gifted by England during the war of 1812. Hudsons bay traded some double side by sides later into the early 1900s. I have seen a lot of the Indian guns in museums all over the country and have yet to see a cape gun.


For the time and location of the story, I would have figured a NW Trade gun to be appropriate... Maybe even a Tulle although that might have been a stretch.

And they made quite a to-do over Hatchet Jack's .50 Hawken... But a .50 would've been on the small end of what was preferred in the mountains. Maybe that's why Hatchet Jack wound up with broke legs and froze to a tree.

Mike


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Re: Jeremiah Johnson question [Re: wv4ster] #6725663
01/12/20 06:48 AM
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when that movie was made bp shooting was getting popular. my guess is that somebody invested in the film and the phrase 50 caliber hawken was born


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