So you can't bed the trap the way Zag beds his trap at the pipe set at a flat set?
Maybe we should do the can on the stake that Clint uses. LOL
I think I'll ask Robert how many pipe sets he makes. I already know the answer and He's now working In flooded conditions.
Not saying the Pipe set doesn't work. I used a chunk of bamboo 20 years ago to hold lure/bait at the set but I still had the dirt hole.
Beav, I know you are playing, so I will play!
When I am in Kansas, like Robert, pretty much 100% holes except for sand blows where we can't get a hole to stay, well, a hole. The pipes allow us to make a "flat" set with our stink above ground. We leave pipe sticking out so the sand (like snow) doesn't cover it.
People go west to trap because of a general plan that it'll be dry. The east and Northeast is NOT the west. We dig a hole here and the hole fills with water from the ground, not rain. If not rain, ever heard of Lake Effect Snow. I live in an area that gets snow Oct-April, 100-200-300 inches a year.
I've said a 1000 times, the pipe was the LAST thing I added to this approach.........I used bamboo, T-bones (still do) Grab and Die sticks (wood dowels wrapped with wool or felt) with my bedding method and steel screen and grass. Bamboo (one time use) T-Bones eventually break Grab and Die one time use. Can't drive bamboo into hard or frozen ground without pilot. Same with wood dowels.
Pipes? I have hundreds and hundreds of them, many 10 years old or older. Its cheap or free to most guys.
In the snow and heavy rain, it gets my stink above ground and I simply do better with it than traditional dirt holes.
Many many good trappers I know did NOT use pipes initially. Then, when their area finally got the rain and snow that I do in NY, the light went off. I guess until you trap in mud and rain start to finish perhaps it doesn't resonate with you.
I made the video mainly to answer the millions of questions and also to show guys how I make it once and for all. If you picture a pipe sticking out of the ground that you can see from 30 feet away, well, that's not MY Pipe Dream Set! My pipe is buried in a grass tuft, only 2 inches or so sticking out, but enough to be a place to put my stink. Once its in there, its protected FAR better from the elements being inside that narrow plastic pipe than if you just put your stink in the dirt in the hole. No big deal to do that in arid parts of the country, but with 4-5-6 inches of rain a week on average, I have found it better to protect my stink.
Its a tool in the tool box. An option. Nothing more. The way I make it, I'll put it up against hole sets if only for ONE reason: it stays operative longer than a hole set here in mud and snow country.
I won't fight you on what Robert is doing and any thought that from this day forward there's only ONE way to trap coyotes.........if any trapper came east and tried to get numbers of any sort, I bet they'd eventually come around to a similar approach. Loads of respect to Robert to tackle this monumental challenge. I've trapped Kansas, and everyone seems to be heading there. That said, I'll take 150 coyotes in New York over 400 in Kansas any day regarding a challenge!
For every hard-headed old timer that WON'T try it, there's 300 open-minded guys that do! LOL I can live with those averages!
MZ