No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Tanning an air dried hide ? #6726899
01/13/20 12:05 AM
01/13/20 12:05 AM
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,117
Indiana
K
kyron4 Offline OP
trapper
kyron4  Offline OP
trapper
K

Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,117
Indiana
I have a off color coyote that after I boarded and dried decided I would just tan it for a wall hanger. When I tan a fresh hide it gets salted twice before going in the pickle bath. Can the air dried pelt go straight into the pickle or do I need to rehydrate the pelt in cold water, salt twice, then into the bath ? Does salting and air drying achieve the same results ? -Thanks

Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: kyron4] #6726938
01/13/20 01:07 AM
01/13/20 01:07 AM
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,961
MB
J
Jurassic Park Offline
trapper
Jurassic Park  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,961
MB
Youíre going to want to relax the pelt. To do this put 2lbs of salt per gallon of water and let the pelt soak till itís really soft and pliable.
Youíll know when itís ready, it will be like a fresh pelt put in water.
Something with thin skin like a fox might only take a couple hours.

As soon as itís relaxed, put it into the pickle. The sooner it gets into the pickle the better.


Cold as ice!
Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: kyron4] #6726939
01/13/20 01:08 AM
01/13/20 01:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,961
MB
J
Jurassic Park Offline
trapper
Jurassic Park  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,961
MB
So, no need to salt twice before pickling.


Cold as ice!
Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: kyron4] #6727019
01/13/20 06:49 AM
01/13/20 06:49 AM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,065
ohio
T
tomahawker Offline
trapper
tomahawker  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,065
ohio
Cave men, Indians etc. never had salt. Salt is a preservative, tanned many hides that never seen the first grain of salt.

Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: kyron4] #6727112
01/13/20 08:16 AM
01/13/20 08:16 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,666
S.E. Ohio
M
M.Magis Offline
trapper
M.Magis  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,666
S.E. Ohio
Salt and air dried achieve SIMILAR results, not the same. Jurassic Park is right, re hydrate before going into pickle. Salted hides really should be re hydrated too, though I tend to skip it a lot also.

Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: kyron4] #6727201
01/13/20 09:21 AM
01/13/20 09:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,117
Indiana
K
kyron4 Offline OP
trapper
kyron4  Offline OP
trapper
K

Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,117
Indiana
So air dried locks the hair like salt does ?

Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: kyron4] #6727420
01/13/20 11:56 AM
01/13/20 11:56 AM
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,961
MB
J
Jurassic Park Offline
trapper
Jurassic Park  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,961
MB
Originally Posted by kyron4
So air dried locks the hair like salt does ?


Yes, but the salt removes the water a lot quicker than just allowing the pelt to air dry. This means less chance of the pelt spoiling and the salt slows down any bacteria growth which causes fur to slip.

If you know youíll be tanning a pelt, youíre better off salting it rather than air drying in the long run.


Cold as ice!
Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: kyron4] #6728427
01/14/20 07:18 AM
01/14/20 07:18 AM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,990
SW WI
trapper20 Offline
trapper
trapper20  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,990
SW WI
Ive tossed my dried hides straight into the pickle. I dont salt mine to dry them, they are just air dried. Never had a problem with my wall hangers

Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: tomahawker] #6728628
01/14/20 10:43 AM
01/14/20 10:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 390
Tug Hill, NY
S
Squash Offline
trapper
Squash  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 390
Tug Hill, NY
Originally Posted by tomahawker
Cave men, Indians etc. never had salt. Salt is a preservative, tanned many hides that never seen the first grain of salt.


Not true, the Iroquois had plenty of salt the Onondaga tribe of the six nations were keepers of the council fire and they made their home around Onondaga Lake . The lake is a salt lake, thatís why Syracuse , NY is referred to as the Salt City.

Re: Tanning an air dried hide ? [Re: kyron4] #6728803
01/14/20 02:06 PM
01/14/20 02:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,956
Magna, Utah
G
GritGuy Offline
trapper
GritGuy  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,956
Magna, Utah
Salt for tanning is part of the procedure for professionals to use, and will give better results for back yard tanners as well.

Yes you can tan with out it and many do, but you will notice a lot of difference if you tried salt drying your pelts for tanning. The only exception is if your prepping a pelt and flesh it, then put it in the prep brine immediately.

I do this on every pelt that goes to my tannery, it does make a difference in the pelt, especially when it comes to blocking it out for pattern work compared to a home tan.


[Linked Image]

Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !

Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread