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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: Minker] #6728603
01/14/20 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Minker
I'd a wrapped a raw skunk hide around my head before i wore that !


That's pretty funny, but I have seen some of these guys post pictures on here of them wearing crocs and jorts - I would take the hat any day over those.


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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: Cathouse Jim] #6728644
01/14/20 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cathouse Jim
Originally Posted by Minker
I'd a wrapped a raw skunk hide around my head before i wore that !


That's pretty funny, but I have seen some of these guys post pictures on here of them wearing crocs and jorts - I would take the hat any day over those.

Me too! laugh


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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728649
01/14/20 10:55 AM
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The hat is period accurate. Fact is Mountain Men didn’t really look like what most think. Most were clean shaven and wore what they had and function over fashion. Much like the Indians, who did not walk around every day with a warbonnet and fancy beaded moccasins on. Take the knife in his belt- sure fire way to lose your knife. In a time and place where it was needed most and hard to replace 1000 miles from nowhere. Should be slit in the sheath for belt to run through.

Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728656
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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728663
01/14/20 11:09 AM
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Good link tomahawker. Nowhere in the historical record do we see full hide hats (with faces and legs) on any trappers. By far the most common is a light colored felt wide brimmed hat.

The eared hats/hoods show up in Miller's p[paintings, not many of his original sketches, but some.

That FFG cover is actually one of the more accurate paintings of a western trapper that I have seen. To get nit picky, from my perspective, the belt buckle should be more to the side and the knife should be in the back. The sheath should be secured with w tie of some sort around the belt and sheath. Very few of the sheaths in Miller's works have slits, some do but most do not.

Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728665
01/14/20 11:10 AM
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When I saw the cover, my first thought was that Matthew McConaughey had been the model for the painting.

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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: tomahawker] #6728666
01/14/20 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tomahawker
The hat is period accurate. Fact is Mountain Men didn’t really look like what most think. Most were clean shaven and wore what they had and function over fashion. Much like the Indians, who did not walk around every day with a warbonnet and fancy beaded moccasins on. Take the knife in his belt- sure fire way to lose your knife. In a time and place where it was needed most and hard to replace 1000 miles from nowhere. Should be slit in the sheath for belt to run through.



Yes. When Ive had to research for correct life living for the era on a commission piece, that is exactly the dress and grooming described. Makes sense , too, when real life living was explained .

Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728672
01/14/20 11:16 AM
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I don't know about the hooped beaver being carried around either.

But overall its an Amazing piece of Artwork!!!


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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: tomahawker] #6728673
01/14/20 11:17 AM
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Excellent link sir!

The cover does indeed rule.


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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728698
01/14/20 11:47 AM
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[Linked Image]

Well, I guess I have to look differently now at all the little pre and post pubescent reenactors at the mall!


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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728762
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Pretty good period depiction of the mountain man other than the chain on the trap and the knife. When the mountain men arrived at the rendezvous or the forts to trade, their beaver were dried, folded and packed tightly in bundles, but we'll forgive that since they were hooped to dry.

I get a little tired of the photos of the old grizzled mountain men since the vast majority of them went to the mountains in their teens and 20s and few were still there by the time their hair turned gray.

Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728779
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That guy kinda looks like that coon creek outdoors guy on YouTube. Wearing the Easter bunny costume and all!


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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728797
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If we all get together and start wearing that hat, maybe we could start a new trend.

Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728804
01/14/20 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by proratman
If we all get together and start wearing that hat, maybe we could start a new trend.


You mean revive an old one? They were quite the fad in the early 19th century among the western trappers.

Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728811
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Originally Posted by proratman
If we all get together and start wearing that hat, maybe we could start a new trend.

i'm a feared someone would try an milk me.utter ly


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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: beaverpeeler] #6728869
01/14/20 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Well, I guess I have to look differently now at all the little pre and post pubescent reenactors at the mall!


While Susan and I haven't transcended to the mall just yet to reenact, you might help out the those little whatever pubescent reenactors with their garb if you feel inclined to do so on your mall walks. They just might be the only quasi-positive contact the general public has with trapping today. Lord help us if a group of real trappers set up a booth in a mall to spread the good word on trapping.

We bring a beaver or two along to the rendezvous on occasion for demo purposes. At this particular event there was a line of kids all waiting to take their turn on skinning the beaver. Just before this young lady's turn a youngster about 10 years of age deftly cut out the castors and there they be on top the chunk of firewood.

I'm probably not dressed appropriately in this pic, but it's the thought that counts, eh?

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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728871
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Great demo, Muskrat. Your outfit looks pretty good to me. Cotton shirts and fringed buckskin pants were very common.

I agree about positive trapping exposure. That's one huge reason I do living history displays. Show the kids fur, let them feel it. Tell them why trapping is necessary.

I've had kids watch in wonder when I do something as simple as get vegetables ready for stew. They had never seen anyone slice up carrots or potatoes.

Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728881
01/14/20 03:28 PM
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A good place to visit if you're in the area. We use the video you'll find if you scroll down in DVD format to begin our trapper ed class here in southwest Wisconsin.

https://museumofthemountainman.com/


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Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: proratman] #6728905
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That was their way of "coming out of the closet".Only the gay mountain men wore that type of hat.

Re: Fur-Fish-Game [Re: Boco] #6728907
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Originally Posted by Boco
That was their way of "coming out of the closet".Only the gay mountain men wore that type of hat.

So you have one?

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