Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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Never had a crossbow but have bowhunted a lot and have shot a lot of arrows. Used to spend big bucks on the best aluminum shafts and if you practice, they get bent. When the carbon arrows came around I was amazed at how much tougher they were. I had a release issue one time and missed my backstop and buried a carbon arrow in the wood frame of a dog house. Didn't do anything to it, pulled the insert when I pulled it out so it had to be reglued, but it was straight and true. An aluminum shaft would have been bent or distroyed. So I say go carbon bolts.
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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I shoot some ACComplice from Cabelas that are carbon and aluminum core composite. Stock 20 inch were 390 grains then add the broadhead of 100 gr. so it is not light. Out to 45 yards I am good, 4 lines in scope, then it starts to drop a lot, about a foot more out to 60, but I want deer closer that that.
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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Carbon, while I personally have not had the issue I do have friends and people I trust tell me that aluminum crossbow shafts will often develop a bend just from the stress of shooting due to the higher draw weight
Like you say di have not t had an issue myself but then I went straight from wood shafts to carbon and have never shot aluminum one in a crossbow
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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I broke down at Christmas and bought myself a TenPoint Titan M1 crossbow along with a Big Dog hunting ladder stand and extra arrows, broad heads and practice tips. Years ago I hunted with a compound bow but both of my shoulders went bad so I sold everything. I am ready for the 2020 Wisconsin bow season.
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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I broke down at Christmas and bought myself a TenPoint Titan M1 crossbow along with a Big Dog hunting ladder stand and extra arrows, broad heads and practice tips. Years ago I hunted with a compound bow but both of my shoulders went bad so I sold everything. I am ready for the 2020 Wisconsin bow season. Thats how I feel trapper234. ...I went through 7 dif. Compounds in a 30 years deer hunting.... Im ready to experience sept/ Oct stand time with my New Excaliber. Snare loop...That Arrow needs mounted as much as any animal yoy took with it !!!
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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Get some of the Easton FMJ’s. Then you’ll have the best of both worlds.
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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Get some of the Easton FMJ’s. Then you’ll have the best of both worlds. If they made them in Excaliber style flat nock 16.5"
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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I bought the carbon express piledrivers for my Excalibur assassin. The speed was a bit slow at 302 fps. The quill bolts that came with it went 344 fps. With the piledrivers and the 150 bolt cuter broad heads it produced 102 ft/lbs. The quill with 100 gr tips was about 92 ft/lbs.
I was getting less than 2" groups at 60 yards with the piledrivers. I didn't shoot the quills much. One thing to note was I could not use the flat nocks.
Oh, the piledrivers weighed 347 grains with out a tip.
All this and I have not shot a thing with it.
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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Jerry Jr. Why not the flat nocks?
And do they sell the piledriver s in 16.5" bolts? For some reason the string skipped under the bolt. My first two shots with them with their 'flat' nocks just flopped the bolt out close to the target (after second shot I noticed the down fletching was ripped from the string hitting it). They had two other nocks, one was a very deep nock and the other was much shallower. I went with the shallower one. Bolts flew good after that. I bought mine from midway and all I see them offering is 20".
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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Jerry Jr. Why not the flat nocks?
And do they sell the piledriver s in 16.5" bolts? For some reason the string skipped under the bolt. My first two shots with them with their 'flat' nocks just flopped the bolt out close to the target (after second shot I noticed the down fletching was ripped from the string hitting it). They had two other nocks, one was a very deep nock and the other was much shallower. I went with the shallower one. Bolts flew good after that. I bought mine from midway and all I see them offering is 20". I can only see the 20" ers also.Thanks
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Re: Aluminum vs Carbon Bolts
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For me it carbon in my opinion they're either straight/good or broke. I run the pile drivers off of my sniper 370 been very happy with them I have taken 5-6 deer with them so far. Mother in law shoots cabales carbon stalker extreme with her Excal Phoenix recurve, her brother shoots xx75 2219 off of his 10 point recurve. Go over to Crossbow Nation they have a arrow/bolt forum lots of info and opinions. A lot of them have bolts made up from south shore archery. From what I have read on that site and others top notch customer service and Jerry is the guy to talk to if you have any questions J
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