Re: TEACHERS
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Are you not paid extra for summer school ? Green bay
Are you a math teacher ?
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Re: TEACHERS
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Teachers wages should have almost nothing to do with the number of hours they work. The training, skill, and ability needed to do the job should determine wages. Good teachers DO NOT make enough money. Like has been said there are a few bad teachers, there are bad trappers, farmers, truck drivers, lawyers, bankers, bad everything, but as a whole teachers are probably way ahead of most of the rest in the the % of good vs. bad. They are all handicapped by the rules and regulations of public schools. I guarantee the bashers here do not go to the schools and have no idea what it really entails. If you think its remotely the same now as it was 20-50 years ago when you went to school, you are sadly mistaken.
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Re: TEACHERS
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Hey, it only takes 4 years of college. and tens of thousands of dollars to get one of these cushy jobs. Earn your masters during your first few years, and get 40 hours of continuing ed per year, every year, and the state lets you keep your certificate current......piece of cake. I think most would be surprised at the work that goes into teaching and how little liberal indoctrination goes on. You should not allow yourself to be misinformed by some of the "fake news" media outlets. Going to have to agree with gryhkl here. Now let’s talk about nurses and how terrible they are.
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Re: TEACHERS
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For those of you that have no respect for teachers, why would a student respect them if you don’t.
Same as law enforcement and military. Under appreciated. People wonder why the world is the way it is and like to point the finger. Do some self reflecting Spot on! Teachers know by the kids parents what kind of student the kid will be about 95% of the time. Funny how so, so often the parents who had trouble in school, have kids that have trouble in school. Seems that way quite often with the ones who didn't get along with the law too.
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Re: TEACHERS
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Let's take a look at it
In a single year teachers I know have the following off
1 week @ Thanksgiving 1 week spring break 2 weeks @ Christmas 10 weeks summer vaca 5 paid sick days 5 paid personal days All fed gov holidays Several snow days not all are made up at the end of the year Every Wednesday of every week my son gets early release at 1:30 so teachers can have personal time He also has several days off for teacher in-service days where they teach no one
Now do the math if you dare
Thurs Friday off for Thanksgiving 1 Week Spring Break 1 Week Christmas 6 Weeks Summer 10 Days ( 8 sick / 2 Personal) - Maximum cap on days 100. Anything over turned back which most teachers do every year. Federal Holidays 1 snow day (Everything else is made up) 1 Day a month Staff Development ( Teacher Training) Standard 5 Day weeks = 36 @ 55 hours a week = 1,980 hours 4 Additional weeks of Summer School @ 20 hours a Week = 80 hours Minimum of 2,060 hours (Additional hours for licensing not included)[/quote] Why only 6 weeks for summer break ? Are you counting summer school twice ?
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Re: TEACHERS
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I would like to also point out, that teaching can be very mentally draining. It isn’t easy to get up and teach the curriculum every day, while ensuring that you cover everything and make sure the students are engaged.
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Re: TEACHERS
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Must have had 50-60 different teachers in my school career,All were good teachers.but none were the same.Some were strict,some laid back,but all were good teachers.We got strapped by the Principal,not by the teacher. When my kids were going to public school I noticed the teachers were very different from ones I had.My kids liked all their teachers.I noticed My kids teachers spent considerable more time volunteering for extra curricular activities for the kids than they did when I went to school. None of my kids got strapped at school-no strapping allowed when my kids went to school.
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Re: TEACHERS
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Children should respect teachers for sure Teachers around here any way should be payed more. However it is just a job, if'n you don't like it , quit, if it don't pay enough, quit, if you don't feel appreciated enough, quit. People should quit trying to make this more than a job, because it does come with a paycheck, in the agreed on amount, on the agreed upon day.
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Re: TEACHERS
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For those of you that have no respect for teachers, why would a student respect them if you don’t.
Same as law enforcement and military. Under appreciated. People wonder why the world is the way it is and like to point the finger. Do some self reflecting Fantastic reply! Yes, Yes, and Yes.
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Re: TEACHERS
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Why would ones profession dictate the level of respect ?
Shouldn't respect be earned by the person and not granted by the job they chose ?
POS 's in all professions aren't there ?
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Re: TEACHERS
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In conclusion: A teacher attends a university and has the free will to chose any major and chooses education. (One of the easiest majors) Then most join a union to negotiate their wages above what the free market would pay for an easy major and somehow they end up underpaid for their profession? LOL YOU ARE SMOKING DOPE. EASY??? !!! My wife is a double major in mathematics and accounting. 7-12. I'll send you some of the work from her MATH college classes then you get back to me on how easy it is for HER major. BUT elementary PE maybe.
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Re: TEACHERS
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In KY. this year. Teachers protesting against pension reform. They were promised what they had would be honored but new teachers would be put on a 401k plan. Union stepped in and said not fair.Even though most people have one. Also chanted we love our kids give us more money so we can do our job. Not more money for the schools but for us. Please one of you saying I or anyone else is bashing teachers explain how this helps schools .Also don't forget we get to retire after 20 years. How can any state afford this and still provide services to the rest of their people? 20 years? What school system you in. Better look again. 27 years with limited benefits. 30 years full retirement. The strike was because the STATE law makers had pulled out of the retirement account and then announced they couldn't fund the system. IF they had just left THE TEACHERS money alone no one could have complained/ BUT they used it to pad their salaries and fund special interest groups!!!!!! The only thing you can get after 20 years is paid health ins and if you are not 55 you can't draw a penny of retirement. PLUS ins is NOT paid in full still cost you 168 dollars a month or 861 for a family plan.....
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Re: TEACHERS
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In conclusion: A teacher attends a university and has the free will to chose any major and chooses education. (One of the easiest majors) Then most join a union to negotiate their wages above what the free market would pay for an easy major and somehow they end up underpaid for their profession? LOL YOU ARE SMOKING DOPE. EASY??? !!! My wife is a double major in mathematics and accounting. 7-12. I'll send you some of the work from her MATH college classes then you get back to me on how easy it is for HER major. BUT elementary PE maybe. So what you are saying is wife didn't chose an education major? Pay Attention! Google "Easiest college majors" P.S. We will trade, she sends me some math and I'll send her some of my physics homework.
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