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Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6732041
01/17/20 07:33 AM
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Here's the 3rd Bull to die from this herd:"

An elk was found dead Jan. 2 in northern Wisconsin after it ate corn put out by a landowner in a misguided attempt to help wildlife, according to the Department of Natural Resources.

The animal died from rumen acidosis, a direct result from eating the corn.

Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6732119
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How much are they going to fine that landowner?

Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6732124
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Died from too much corn?


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Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6732125
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Landowner likely poisoned them on purpose. Tired of them busting fences and tearing down hay stacks


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Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: danny clifton] #6732130
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Landowner likely poisoned them on purpose. Tired of them busting fences and tearing down hay stacks

Thats likely too


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Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: 330-Trapper] #6732140
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
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Died from too much corn?


Yup- Rumen Acidois

Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6732147
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Wisconsin elk law violations = 1st offence - 1,000 not to excess 15,000 - 2 nd offence not to excess 20,000. I'd say she got a pretty good break on potential fines; for self reporting.

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Those Elk are costing the Taxpayers more than they know.


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Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6732164
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This country is going down the toilet.

Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6732241
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Corn will also kill deer during the winter.
Part way down in this article it explains why.
https://www.farmanddairy.com/columns/feeding-corn-to-deer-could-be-death-sentence/14324.html


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Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6732248
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Ill read that Mark!!! smile


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Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6733039
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Does the word poaching come to anyone’s mind?

Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: beeman] #6733155
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Dairy farmers are concerned about rumen acidosis all the time. Too much corn without adequate fiber creates too much acid in the rumen that can exist at a limited level and be chronic or as in this case it can be acute. Corn is relatively low cost and available and with a huge switch to corn silage over grass and legumes monitoring for this condition is continuous. Low level signs are lowered butterfat, loose manure and pasty manure and hoof ailments with the acid conditions causing rupturing of blood vessels in the hoof. In feed lots where more corn, sorghum and other high energy grains are fed heavily the rations are mixed to get enough fiber in the animals to keep the 4 guts working and gain more weight, but almost all of the organ meat such as kidneys and liver are full of abscesses and thus unfit for human consumption. I don't know if it is hormonal from day length or other factors but something changes the metabolism in Cervids regarding how feedstuffs are metabolized and low fiber diets can be an issue as the gut system may not have the bacteria and protozoa to break down the high energy feedstuff. There also may be far less bacteria in the rumen if metabolism has changed and thus the released acids can not be broken down or at least not fast enough. We have to remember that animals with rumens use feedstuffs to create bacteria and protozoa and the animal actually digests the bugs in the 4th stomach and small intestines to get the complete protein that is needed.

Bryce

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Bryce,
Good input- winters can be harsh also. I worry during years like this when we have a major snowfall early, the browse line is high because of the snow base and then we get a major thaw leaving most nutritional browse out of reach. We still have a lot of standing corn in the fields this year, hopefully that won't be a factor as we get closer to spring.

Re: Woman fined for WI elk [Re: corky] #6733896
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Do they not grab a bolus sometimes from a doner and use it to stimulate the gut?

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