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Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... #6734415
01/18/20 04:42 PM
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Very dissapointed selling to groenwald. 11 yotes all good none rubbed.(granted not all top end but a few real good ones. Two blondes I know would be cheap) All coon were large boars. Everything sold green. I will make sure I never sell to that buyer again. I believe his name was hunter. Never seen so many guys take back fur out of the truck. Should have pulled everything back out of the truck. He said his top yotes are $40 and top coons are $10. All prime December Wisconsin fur

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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734439
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You sold green.Skin'n is the eazy part of the put up.
What did you expect ? TOP price for green pelts ?


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734489
01/18/20 05:17 PM
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Grony was paying $15 for big bores a month ago. Myself and another trapper sold to them Thursday. I was satisfied with my coyotes, but we were both not happy with the coon prices. $10 tops, even for big boars, when questioned the buyer said wrong color. They also comment one sow bellies not being well furred. When is the belly fur used??? Never?
I had 2 badgers, frozen whole. One was small and grayish, the other big, white belly and white tipped guard hairs. $4 and $8, said they don't have an outlet for badger. But advertise they buy them. I should have taken the big one back and had it tanned.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: Newt] #6734527
01/18/20 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Newt
You sold green.Skin'n is the eazy part of the put up.
What did you expect ? TOP price for green pelts ?

Settle down there buddy. If you have been paying attention to the Facebook live posts they do that buyer is about $10-15 low on yotes and $5 lower on coon then the other buyers have been in the past month.

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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734603
01/18/20 06:09 PM
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Different areas have different grades of fur. In my area coyotes have a $80.00 top and coons $20.00 for finished. I sold 2 carcass Badgers, 1@$15.00 and 1@ $25.00.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734615
01/18/20 06:20 PM
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LDW,
My top green coyote this year, $60. He was a brute.
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Here's 2 pics of the better badger
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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734629
01/18/20 06:27 PM
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My buddy sold coyotes to Groenewold last night. Top coyote was$45. The rest were $30-40. They even gave $3 for rubbed coyotes.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734714
01/18/20 07:15 PM
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Trevor Barnes. Look him up. He travels to buy and if he comes close to go he will pay more than GFW for sure. He does all his own buying when he travels. I also agree that selling green is not the best option. Easier to refuse a buyer's offer when you can take dried finished fur home and store it easier than green.


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734715
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I get that you didn't get what you expected. I don't get the buyer being at fault. You either accept the offer or not. That's the way it works.


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734723
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I sold to Barnes this yr. I will never go back to groeny.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: madminker] #6734738
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Sold 55 rats to Groenwold at Burlington, $3.98 average, about what I expected. Saw lots of carcass coyotes, not many put up skins. I think most of of the pelts taken back were refused by the buyer rather than guys asking for them back.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734758
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Originally Posted by wipy
Originally Posted by Newt
You sold green.Skin'n is the eazy part of the put up.
What did you expect ? TOP price for green pelts ?

Settle down there buddy. If you have been paying attention to the Facebook live posts they do that buyer is about $10-15 low on yotes and $5 lower on coon then the other buyers have been in the past month.


Some of the reports say that GFW has been paying $100 or better on some coyotes too but there is no way you can compare that to what you got.

You were offered less than you expected yet you sold them for the offered prices anyway. A trip to the mirror might be in order.


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale ast night..... [Re: wipy] #6734795
01/18/20 08:13 PM
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My buddy sold to groney last night. Got a $4.40 average on rats and a top of $5.50 but when he went back to his truck he noticed that was for 35 rats not the 45 he offered. Went back and raised some cane but the buyer offered him another $25.00 for the 10 missing rats and said they would count them when they got back. I wouldn't be holding my breath.

Had 3 coon 2 at $10.00 one at $5.00 and one coyote at $50.00 1 at $30.00 and 1 at $7.00 all put up fur.


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6734871
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These are some I got $80.00 for put up.

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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6734909
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Nice coyotes.


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: strike2x] #6734928
01/18/20 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by strike2x
Trevor Barnes. Look him up. He travels to buy and if he comes close to go he will pay more than GFW for sure. He does all his own buying when he travels. I also agree that selling green is not the best option. Easier to refuse a buyer's offer when you can take dried finished fur home and store it easier than green.

I will be taking some fur to him at the end of this month. I hope to get a good price he made it sound real good when I talk to him on the phone.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6734948
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The right to refuse comes to mind, there's more than one buyer out there.


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: beartooth trapr] #6734949
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Originally Posted by beartooth trapr
The right to refuse comes to mind, there's more than one buyer out there.

X2

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: LDW] #6735008
01/18/20 10:22 PM
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Sold to Trevor today. Over $4 avg on rats and $36 on otter. Was happy with grade and price.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6735015
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I used to sell to an Amish guy - he was the kind of man that expected you to haggle with him over prices.
Sometimes I sucked it up - at other times I pulled my fur and walked. More than once he would come out to my truck and say "bring your stuff back in and we'll talk". LOL!!
It's all up to the seller as to what they expect - and will take for for their pelts.


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6735158
01/18/20 11:42 PM
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Barnes sure sounds good. Maybe he'll expand his route next year.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6735264
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I'll be taking mine to the state auction again this Feb. There is usually 6 to 8 buyers there bidding on fur.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6735321
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That would be interesting to see a state auction. We have nothing if that sort.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: AJE] #6735358
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Originally Posted by AJE
That would be interesting to see a state auction. We have nothing if that sort.

We don't have anything either. Wish we did.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6735459
01/19/20 09:24 AM
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As stated before, some of us do not have the facilities to finish fur, that's why we sell green.
LDW, nice looking coyotes. We're just not far enough west to get better grades.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6735635
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If you had already had them skun that was the hard part of the job. Coyotes, coon and rats are easy to put up. Get yourself a fleshing knife and a beam and some quality boards and put the fur up. You will give yourself more options to sell.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: 3togo] #6735648
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Originally Posted by 3togo
As stated before, some of us do not have the facilities to finish fur, that's why we sell green.
LDW, nice looking coyotes. We're just not far enough west to get better grades.

I paid a guy to put up mine this year. I am working on a building to do it in but just haven't got it ready yet. I paid 4 apiece for cat and coyotes to get them put up. I then traded the glands and skulls to get the price down. The gland and skulls and one set if skunk pods gave me a big break in price. Got 5 dollar for the pods, 12.50 a 16oz glands and 2 dollar a skull.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: AJE] #6735651
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Originally Posted by AJE
Barnes sure sounds good. Maybe he'll expand his route next year.

You should call and talk to him. He has a bigger rout then what is on the web site

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6735749
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Trevor is a busy man, very busy. But he will take the time to answer questions. One thing about expanding the route would be customer base. Maybe if you guys would look to see how many would come to a stop it would help him make decisions.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6736193
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Anyone know if he ever gets into Iowa our not?

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: TTP] #6736254
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Trevor reminds me of a old time buyer when I was a kid.He grades the fur out and explains the why. I've sold to GFW and was happy with price but felt he had an average in mind and did not really grade the pelt. Trevor also buys beaver tails,antlers and castor.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6736721
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Trevor's explanation, mike, would be valuable. Nice

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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: AJE] #6736733
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One might think or feel that with far less wild fur being harvested that selling green would not be such a big penalty, but when one thinks about it with very low UE nationwide and with the very low fur numbers most buyers are running very tight ships and not nearly as many guys are going to quit a job to get even $3 bucks for putting up coon if there are only a handful to do instead of thousands.
With the prices being offered as many point out the buyers are telling the harvesters to bring up handled pelts. Also buyers can turn that fur over rapidly and thus don't need to have as much cash tied up longer term.

Bryce

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6736798
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Some people believe that prices should get better and better as the season goes on but what happens when the buyer is getting orders filled up and the market can't handle much more? Prices will go down. Buyers take the most risk

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6736898
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Originally Posted by wipy
Originally Posted by Newt
You sold green.Skin'n is the eazy part of the put up.
What did you expect ? TOP price for green pelts ?

Settle down there buddy. If you have been paying attention to the Facebook live posts they do that buyer is about $10-15 low on yotes and $5 lower on coon then the other buyers have been in the past month.



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Why did you sell? Your truck only hulls fur one way ?


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: AJE] #6737022
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Originally Posted by AJE
That would be interesting to see a state auction. We have nothing if that sort.


We use to have them but there was regulation In our state laws where we had to quit.
bblwi might have more information on this.


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6737029
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Is sold a couple weeks ago to Richard Clark out of Coleman Wi. I am pretty sure he said he was affiliated with Trevor Barnes.
(4) coyotes at $40.00 ea. (4) 3XL coon at $15.00 ea. (2) mink at $3.00 ea and (47) rats at $3.52 ea average. All put up. I was good with the price and he was helpful with suggestions on the put-up. I've got a 1/2 doz years or so doing this so its nice for any hints etc.
Just another option I guess.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6737281
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wipy i'm just curious what has your fur graded in the past not talking price that can be anywhere but color and guardhair/underfur quality should remain fairly stable in your area over time as it has in mine


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Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6737342
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Got any closeup pics of said coyotes?

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: wipy] #6737843
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I can see how that receipt would confuse guys as they stand in line...a good buyer will make things extremely clear.

I think those figure out to be green averages of $25.90 coyotes, $7.22 coon, and $1.61 rats? I would think the coon and rat averages could be double that if put up, which means that green price is robbery. Just my opinion.

Those $5-$10 coyotes would need to have been pretty rough. The old NAFA DG3 grade would fall into that range a lot of times, and those were put up coyotes that were bald between the shoulders.

Re: Dissapointed in fur sale last night..... [Re: 1weektrap] #6737948
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Originally Posted by 1weektrap
Is sold a couple weeks ago to Richard Clark out of Coleman Wi. I am pretty sure he said he was affiliated with Trevor Barnes.
(4) coyotes at $40.00 ea. (4) 3XL coon at $15.00 ea. (2) mink at $3.00 ea and (47) rats at $3.52 ea average. All put up. I was good with the price and he was helpful with suggestions on the put-up. I've got a 1/2 doz years or so doing this so its nice for any hints etc.
Just another option I guess.

Ahh, Clark is a good guy. Maybe Barnes will get bigger by finding intermediaries like Clark to help facilitate the process.

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On somewhat of a side note i have been seeing a bunch of horrible coyotes at the fur buyer recently. With the word out that Coyotes are worth a lot of money there are a lot of guys dog hunting and calling trying to sell dogs they think are worth a lot but aren't. Fist sized and larger holes in one or both sides shot three and four times and mange ridden dogs. Then they get a little disgruntled when they are offered $5 a dog or nothing. The amount of work to that needs to go into an animal that has that much damage if you can even work it is beyond them. There will be a lot of these dogs hitting the auctions as they are getting bought for nothing and hemmed up the best way possible.

I also think that with the trim market somewhat changing how we look at coyotes in general we are seeing dogs graded differently per the market they are in. Flat fur with little to no guard hairs just isn't worth much in this market. That is what I am seeing and being told anyways. I think the market is going to move more towards a bigger separation between good and bad as it progresses. My two cents. This will cause the buyers to be more leary of green fur they have to invest capital in on top of initial investment to gain return.


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Him twisting your arm and breaking it is gonna cost more than what the fur was worth. Never could figure out that concept, and still cant.


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Where's wipy? He needs to come on here and tell us all to settle down not just newt . laugh


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Originally Posted by wipy
Very dissapointed selling to groenwald. 11 yotes all good none rubbed.(granted not all top end but a few real good ones. Two blondes I know would be cheap) All coon were large boars. Everything sold green. I will make sure I never sell to that buyer again. I believe his name was hunter. Never seen so many guys take back fur out of the truck. Should have pulled everything back out of the truck. He said his top yotes are $40 and top coons are $10. All prime December Wisconsin fur

That one $1 muskrat is interesting. Hmmm.

I wonder if he's buying weasels

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I think hunter scored laugh


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Wipy, what's your plan for your next fur sale, auction?

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Originally Posted by thedude055
On somewhat of a side note i have been seeing a bunch of horrible coyotes at the fur buyer recently. With the word out that Coyotes are worth a lot of money there are a lot of guys dog hunting and calling trying to sell dogs they think are worth a lot but aren't. Fist sized and larger holes in one or both sides shot three and four times and mange ridden dogs. Then they get a little disgruntled when they are offered $5 a dog or nothing. The amount of work to that needs to go into an animal that has that much damage if you can even work it is beyond them. There will be a lot of these dogs hitting the auctions as they are getting bought for nothing and hemmed up the best way possible.

I also think that with the trim market somewhat changing how we look at coyotes in general we are seeing dogs graded differently per the market they are in. Flat fur with little to no guard hairs just isn't worth much in this market. That is what I am seeing and being told anyways. I think the market is going to move more towards a bigger separation between good and bad as it progresses. My two cents. This will cause the buyers to be more leary of green fur they have to invest capital in on top of initial investment to gain return.


Awesome points!!!! Blood and bullet holes will never sell good no matter how high the market is. Same with poorly put up fur. No but wants to pay premium prices for a pelt that has a good chance of slipping.

And with the comment about the value gap between really good coyotes and decent coyotes is spot on. It’s what we are seeing with the cat market. The longer the prices are high for anything, the larger the price gap gets.


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