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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Wolfdog91] #6734522
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What is the responsibility of government, if not to help provide for the welfare of its citizens?

Friends, family, and the church can also help. But you know that is impossible in many cases (no or poor family and friends, not a member of a church, and so on).

Jim


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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Boco] #6734530
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Originally Posted by Boco
Not in our society.
Those you mentioned don't step up to the plate.They cant/wont because it will bankrupt them.



Not in a free market , it wouldnt

People in this country go bankrupt only because health care costs are out of reach , for one reason and only one reason ............goverment involvement


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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Posco] #6734600
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by James
I'll let the abortion issue go, and stick to guns. I don't trust Trump to protect our guns. He'd trade gun rights away in a heartbeat if he thought it would help himself.

Jim

From what I've seen and heard, James, you'd trade away our gun rights before you'd vote for Trump. Right now, you probably couldn't wrest a gun out of Trump's cold, dead hands. The left drove him there and I'm the happier for it.


I heard his bone spurs are back.


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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: FairbanksLS] #6734607
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Originally Posted by gray dog
I heard his bone spurs are back.

That makes him even tougher. All that pain and Dems are still child's play for him.

Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Wolfdog91] #6734612
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What the heck are bone spurs anyways?
Did he get them as a present from Stormy?

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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Boco] #6734616
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Originally Posted by Boco
What the heck are bone spurs anyways?
Did he get them as a present from Stormy?


Evidently they are some serious defect that, according to your favorite doctor, not only prevent you from serving in the infantry, but every other position in the military, including manning a desk job.

Jim


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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: James] #6734617
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Originally Posted by James
Evidently they are some serious defect that, according to your favorite doctor, not only prevent you from serving in the infantry, but every other position in the military, including manning a desk job.

Jim

But with a doctors note you can be a community organizer.

Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Wolfdog91] #6734618
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James served?









Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Dirt] #6734620
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I'm going to try and illustrate what I think you are saying wolfdog. Gryhkl the stock market did very well under Obama. What specific things did Obama do to cause this?


Well, dirt, I kinda doubt you would take my word for it if I told you so, but given that the Financial Times, which has received the following rating; Overall, we rate the Financial Times Least Biased based on balanced reporting and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check.
from Media Bias/fact check.com, you can go to their site and ask your question. Just a start is given below:

Martin Wolf JANUARY 10 2017-

How should we assess the economic success or failure of Barack Obama’s presidency?

This is a difficult question to answer. After all, the incumbent of the White House cannot determine the performance of the huge and complex US economy. Indeed, policy initiatives usually have a modest impact. But the story of Mr Obama’s presidency is a little different from the usual, since it began amid the worst financial crisis since the 1930s. If we consider the disaster he inherited and the determination of the Republicans in Congress to ensure he would fail, his record is clearly successful. This does not mean it is perfect. Nor does it mean the US confronts few economic challenges. Neither statement would be close to correct. Yet it does mean he has laid a strong foundation.

More information can be found at https://www.ft.com/tour.
https://www.ft.com/content/b5b764cc-d657-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e


Now, you and others may argue that their findings are incorrect. I expect that you will. But I am much more comfortable learning from experts who know what they are talking about to a much greater degree than me, you, and probably everybody else on the site. And I do believe, as the rating shows, their findings are unbiased. Note that they do not offer praise nor condemnation- they just call it like they see it.

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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Posco] #6734622
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by gray dog
I heard his bone spurs are back.

That makes him even tougher. All that pain and Dems are still child's play for him.


You may be right. It is said that growing old isn't for cowards.


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Originally Posted by James
Society pays for the uninsured, even if the government doesn't get directly involved.

We don't let them bleed to death in a ditch. Who would want to live in such a culture?

Jim


You don't think that socialized medicine rations health care?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Posco] #6734625
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by James
Evidently they are some serious defect that, according to your favorite doctor, not only prevent you from serving in the infantry, but every other position in the military, including manning a desk job.

Jim

But with a doctors note you can be a community organizer.

Was Obama around at the time of the draft? Or was that not to whom you were referring, posco?

Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: gryhkl] #6734627
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Was Obama around at the time of the draft? Or was that not to whom you were referring, posco?


Do you think he would have served? Be honest.

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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Boco
What the heck are bone spurs anyways?
Did he get them as a present from Stormy?


Evidently they are some serious defect that, according to your favorite doctor, not only prevent you from serving in the infantry, but every other position in the military, including manning a desk job.

Jim


My dad had bone spurs in his heels. Until he had them removed he could hardly walk. He said it felt like someone was stabbing him. It made him ineligible to re-up in the Navy when his hitch was up. Remember too. No matter your job in the service you still must be able to pass the physical qualifications.


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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Wolfdog91] #6734631
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Wont prevent you from 2 terms as prez though ...


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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Wolfdog91] #6734634
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I think Obama served in the Kenyan army.
I'm sure I seen a pic of him with a leopard skin shield and a sharp stick and wearing a loincloth.


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Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: Wanna Be] #6734656
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Does this irritate you just with Trump or did you get irritated with any of the past Presidents? Is it the fact that he actually won despite what the news told you? Or are you disappointed that although he’s not perfect, he puts America first and acts like a normal American vs someone who says whatever those with money tell him to say?


BOOM there it is ! Bet he was just fine when Odummy was Prez.

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Acts like a normal American???? You gotta be kidding.
And Posco, if Obama was drafted I think he may have served. Since it was volunteer when he was old enough to enlist, I doubt that he would have unless he saw serving as a stepping stone for future plans.

Re: Anyone else irritated when [Re: gryhkl] #6734682
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Acts like a normal American???? You gotta be kidding.
And Posco, if Obama was drafted I think he may have served. Since it was volunteer when he was old enough to enlist, I doubt that he would have unless he saw serving as a stepping stone for future plans.


He may have but I doubt it. Leftists aren't big on the military. At least Trump is consistent, he's not a warmonger.

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Not a "warmonger". It that the politically correct way to describe those who avoided the draft now?

Anyway, anybody actually read the findings of the Financial Times related to Obama's economy? It should not hurt even the most staunch trump supporter's feelings. It just sheds some non-biased light on what it took to turn around the worse economic conditions since the great depression.

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