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Otter Question #6734835
01/18/20 08:34 PM
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Found an otter toilet in a pond I was trapping muskrats in. They next morning while checking the rat traps I actually saw the otter swimming in the pond. I then set a bank hole I found and threw an underwater bucket set in it that night. Haven't seen him since and I'm in there everyday checking rat traps. That was three days ago. There are two other ponds nearby with zero otter sign. I know its a waiting game for otters and the ones I have caught have all been in rivers. Here are my questions:
Do you think he will come back ? Haven't got a rat out of that pond since I saw him
The pond is most likely going to freeze up, then how would you set it ? Footholds are a not legal in NJ
Any help is greatly appreciated

Last edited by Bucndoe; 01/18/20 08:36 PM.
Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6734866
01/18/20 08:51 PM
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he will come back


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6734877
01/18/20 08:54 PM
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Might take a week or more for the otter to be back.


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6735852
01/19/20 01:46 PM
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Is their a drainage ditch going away from the pond?

Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6735859
01/19/20 01:53 PM
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otters get bored quick.
they will move every few days, but they will be back.

Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6735874
01/19/20 02:06 PM
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Around here otter travel alot and can be gone for weeks at a time before being back in a area.


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6735895
01/19/20 02:20 PM
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I'd set the outlet if it has one and every trail I could find no matter how faint it is. Critters don't always respond to bait but they all travel.


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6736011
01/19/20 03:53 PM
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I am curious how would you set the outlet. My pond has two. Its a little over an acre and otters have hit it a few months ago. I found a toilet behind the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). I can set trails going to it but how do you set the outlet???? I mean in the water near the spillway or on the dry ground where the spillway comes out??

This bucket set please enlighten me about it?? Thanks my otter IQ is low and I never trap water. I have two 220's and several duke footholds I was gonna set around the pond and keep them there since its for nuisance the law allows it.

Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6736013
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I think there is a culvert pipe going to another pond but its deep under water. Im hoping I didn't spook it away

Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6736020
01/19/20 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucndoe
I think there is a culvert pipe going to another pond but its deep under water. Im hoping I didn't spook it away

Believe me...you didnt


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6736021
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There must be a stream in...and a stream out....set those


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6736029
01/19/20 03:57 PM
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Block off the culvert with a conibear


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6736033
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My outlets are gradual spill ways. No pipes.

Re: Otter Question [Re: H5Farm] #6736041
01/19/20 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by H5Farm
My outlets are gradual spill ways. No pipes.

Block off the spill way with a conibear.


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6736083
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The water from the spillway goes someplace. Look for a trail entering the water below the spillway and set a coni downstream. No trail, set the stream at a pinch point, set coni's side by side. Fence off good.


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6743602
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The pond is frozen solid now. I was hoping to catch him before it froze up

Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6743606
01/25/20 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucndoe
The pond is frozen solid now. I was hoping to catch him before it froze up

Watch the sign... where they go a trap should go


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Nessmuck] #6743610
01/25/20 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
There must be a stream in...and a stream out....set those

X2.Channel sets,bottom edge sets,inside bends in stream,etc.


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Re: Otter Question [Re: Bucndoe] #6747109
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I saw him this afternoon in a bordering pond. Moved a trap over there it is a small pond. The connecting channel is very deep and I can't get to it

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