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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735112
01/18/20 11:16 PM
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I took some picture but can't find my camera. They will follow. Its time relax. I know it is here, I just don't know here where.


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735125
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I thouught you were home fast. I am glad your stopped. Be Safe.


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735130
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it's going be interesting to see looking back where the peak sale was at when it done.


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735175
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red mt Sitting and looking at may print out, it looks like 22 of the lots of finished coyotes, brought $100 or more. 14 lots brought under 100 and I would bet 2/3s of those were under $60. Coyotes that were not fleshed, coyotes with holes not sewn, and early as in Sept caught coyotes did not sell well. I felt over all the buyers and sellers were happy with what happened. The better the coyotes the happier they were.


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735226
01/19/20 12:16 AM
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Coyotes that were not fleshed, coyotes with holes not sewn, and early as in Sept caught coyotes did not sell well.


Why would they...?

Sounds like you all had a good yoder day and glad you all got to do it, even with the crappy road conditions. Keep it going!!


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735273
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Thanks to NDFTA for another amazing sale. Lots of buyers and active bidding. I brought all of my 20 coyotes and decided to split them in 2 lots. 5 that had obvious problems and 15 that were really nice. The 5 sold for $30 a piece and the 15 brought $165 a piece. I wrote down prices for about 1,084 coyotes that sold and came up with about $123 average. Lots of well handled fur. Thanks again NDFTA and see you at the next auction!

Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735279
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Originally Posted by MJM
red mt Sitting and looking at may print out, it looks like 22 of the lots of finished coyotes, brought $100 or more. 14 lots brought under 100 and I would bet 2/3s of those were under $60. Coyotes that were not fleshed, coyotes with holes not sewn, and early as in Sept caught coyotes did not sell well. I felt over all the buyers and sellers were happy with what happened. The better the coyotes the happier they were.


Very impressive sale MJM imo
I do not know what sales will have come up with to break the mentality of poor handling .


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Thanks for the info

Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735643
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I got a dumb question, if roads are so bad people can't make it back home HOW are the buyer's getting what they bought hauled back
to where ever they came from?

Glad to see a little light in the fur market even if it's just one specie's and selective at that.

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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735725
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They plow the road eventually.

I wasn't there J but I'd say it was as much a visibility issue, 30 plus mile an hour winds and new snow means zero vis. Just have to wait for the wind to go down.


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735794
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Were your good coyote buyers middlemen or end users?


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: Dirt] #6735809
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Were your good coyote buyers middlemen or end users?



Was there Chinese, Italians or other foreign buyers there, no but that’s not really how the fur business works. Even at Nafa and Fha very little fur is bought by the end user, most is bought by brokers who have orders or may not have orders and piece it out later. There are 4-6 individuals in North America that most coyotes go through before they get to the ruff makers and manufacturers


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735811
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The roads are all open this morning. Depending on the direction of travel, determined if you could move or not. East was not the way to be headed. I had to go north from the sale and you could have done that in any car. Going east or north or south then east was the problem. I think most the buyers were headed west. I think I can say all the buyers were middlemen. Most the buyers were from ND and MT if not all. They may have been buying for another buyer from else where. No one came from overseas.


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735826
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I'll ask a different question. Thanks for answering BTW. Were most of the buyers furbuyers who also buy straight from producers or brokers?


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735872
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Here is what I cam up with for finished coyotes. I am not going to say it's 100% but it should be close enough to give you an ideal.
104 coyotes NS $38.56 avg offer
91 NO bid coyotes
1132 sold coyotes 128.57 average.
With the No sales and no bids added in 109.67 average
The no bids and NO sale coyotes were junk at best. It was easy to see the difference in what sold well and what didn't sell.

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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735884
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Great Job Guys!!!!!!!!!






Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: Monster Toms] #6735893
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Originally Posted by Monster Toms
Great Job Guys!!!!!!!!!

Thanks and I am sure the CO sale will be a good one, if not the best one you have had. At this point ND is not receiving shipped fur and I can't say we ever will. The ND fur auction was started for members of the ND Fur Takers, by the ND Fur Takers board. If you want to ship fur to a good local auction sent it to Monster Toms. I am sure he can give you their track record.


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735914
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Given how strong the coyote market is, those 91 coyotes that were NO BID must have been really, really, really bad!

Were they carcass goods or did some one actually spend time putting them up?


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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6735949
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Wissmiss They were put up. One lot of NS coyotes had coyote pups in it that were the size of a large red fox. No fur, 100% puppy hair. On a quick glance it looked like there were 12 coyotes on the carcass is all. $18.33 avg on the carcass coyotes from what I can see. They were bad at best too. I have heard of $100 tops on carcass coyotes this year from buyers here.
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Re: NDFTA Fur Auctions Two sales this year. [Re: MJM] #6736056
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