Re: cva wolf
[Re: west river rogue]
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01/22/20 12:48 PM
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wvmntnhick
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While I don’t own one, several people I know do. They seem to be great guns for the money. As for bear, don’t overthink it. They’re not nearly as tough as people think. I would however stay away from powerbelts. They are decent for deer at times but deer take less killing than most people want to admit. They just fragment way too easy for my personal taste.
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Re: cva wolf
[Re: wvmntnhick]
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01/22/20 12:56 PM
01/22/20 12:56 PM
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west river rogue
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While I don’t own one, several people I know do. They seem to be great guns for the money. As for bear, don’t overthink it. They’re not nearly as tough as people think. I would however stay away from powerbelts. They are decent for deer at times but deer take less killing than most people want to admit. They just fragment way too easy for my personal taste. Ive actually read pretty good reviews on bear,,,but.....have a backup plan
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Re: cva wolf
[Re: west river rogue]
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01/22/20 12:58 PM
01/22/20 12:58 PM
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Bruce T
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Should work fine as I have owned one myself.Also shot bear with it.A nice broadside double lung shot just behind the shoulder.As with any gun avoid frontal shots and head shots on bear.
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Re: cva wolf
[Re: west river rogue]
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01/22/20 01:44 PM
01/22/20 01:44 PM
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GREENCOUNTYPETE
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had a guy come to a muzzle loader training with one that he had won at a DU banquet the night before.
yes they can be made to shoot just fine, it is a simple break action gun 209 primer ignition
I pulled the breach plug put some anti seize on the threads and put it back in you tighten them snug then back off 1/4 turn and bring it just back to where it stops. many people over tighten breach plugs it has lots of threads it will stay in place just snug. a few patches to lube the barrel , fired a few primers to clean any oil from the breach plug then loaded up and we were shooting targets with it.
it was cold and snow was blowing swirling , keep your powder dry and they work just fine.
using my hunting load of a 385 Hornady hollow point hollow base 50 cal lead conical over 90gr 777 I can tell you it will traverse a deer nearly end to end from a 24 inch barrel. I have no reason to believe that it would be any different shot from the wolf than my NEF 209 break action 50 cal ML.
I would have no issue taking a bear with a ML just think of it as a single shot rifle that is slow to reload and make your shot good , have practiced well ahead of time shots within your range and you will do fine
use a damp patch to wipe the barrel between shots when sighting in so that the barrel is always the same clean , spit is fine , rubbing alcohol is also fine , balistol , moos milk , speed juice
moose milk = Napa water soluble cutting tool oil and water or rubbing alcohol
speed juice is 1/3 rubbing alcohal, 1/3 hydrogen peroxide , 1/3 murphy's oil soap works best from a small stray bottle to moisten patches
hunting I never had to reload more than 2x so I dont' swab between shots if I did I carry patches and would stuff one in my mouth for a few seconds ( patched round ball shooters who plan to shoot a bunch will stick a few patches in their cheek to keep them ready)
when I start shooting for groups I run a lubed patch before my first loading so that I am as close to the same on every shot
like any ML clean at the end of the day with warm water and dish soap dry and lube check it in a few days to make sure you got it all clean by running a white lubed patch.
just like in cartridge reloading keeping your procedure the same every time keeps the best consistency in ammunition , your barrel is your case
clean the case = swab the barrel the same use the same powder , measure the same amount each time use the same size and weight projectile press the projectile down on the powder with the same force use the same primer
= get the most consistent results
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 01/22/20 01:51 PM.
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Re: cva wolf
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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01/22/20 05:19 PM
01/22/20 05:19 PM
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Posts: 10,649 Philippines, s.e. asia,ohio
west river rogue
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had a guy come to a muzzle loader training with one that he had won at a DU banquet the night before.
yes they can be made to shoot just fine, it is a simple break action gun 209 primer ignition
I pulled the breach plug put some anti seize on the threads and put it back in you tighten them snug then back off 1/4 turn and bring it just back to where it stops. many people over tighten breach plugs it has lots of threads it will stay in place just snug. a few patches to lube the barrel , fired a few primers to clean any oil from the breach plug then loaded up and we were shooting targets with it.
it was cold and snow was blowing swirling , keep your powder dry and they work just fine.
using my hunting load of a 385 Hornady hollow point hollow base 50 cal lead conical over 90gr 777 I can tell you it will traverse a deer nearly end to end from a 24 inch barrel. I have no reason to believe that it would be any different shot from the wolf than my NEF 209 break action 50 cal ML.
I would have no issue taking a bear with a ML just think of it as a single shot rifle that is slow to reload and make your shot good , have practiced well ahead of time shots within your range and you will do fine
use a damp patch to wipe the barrel between shots when sighting in so that the barrel is always the same clean , spit is fine , rubbing alcohol is also fine , balistol , moos milk , speed juice
moose milk = Napa water soluble cutting tool oil and water or rubbing alcohol
speed juice is 1/3 rubbing alcohal, 1/3 hydrogen peroxide , 1/3 murphy's oil soap works best from a small stray bottle to moisten patches
hunting I never had to reload more than 2x so I dont' swab between shots if I did I carry patches and would stuff one in my mouth for a few seconds ( patched round ball shooters who plan to shoot a bunch will stick a few patches in their cheek to keep them ready)
when I start shooting for groups I run a lubed patch before my first loading so that I am as close to the same on every shot
like any ML clean at the end of the day with warm water and dish soap dry and lube check it in a few days to make sure you got it all clean by running a white lubed patch.
just like in cartridge reloading keeping your procedure the same every time keeps the best consistency in ammunition , your barrel is your case
clean the case = swab the barrel the same use the same powder , measure the same amount each time use the same size and weight projectile press the projectile down on the powder with the same force use the same primer
= get the most consistent results
thx pete
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Re: cva wolf
[Re: west river rogue]
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01/22/20 06:03 PM
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illinideer
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I have an optima not sure what the difference is between the two. I shoot a 300 grain 45 cal xtp non mag wit a harvester sabot and 90grns of blackhorn 209. For black bear i wouldn t change a thing if i had a chance to go J
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Re: cva wolf
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01/22/20 06:12 PM
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I Have a Knight Disc 50 and use 100 grains 777 with Barnes MZ 250 grain. Shot two bears with it one in NH one in VT. Deadly combination no problem killing bears as mentioned earlier use good shot placement. I always go for a double lung shot first.
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Re: cva wolf
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01/22/20 06:14 PM
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don403
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i have one nice and light shoots great god gun.
24coyotes,4 coon 3 grey fox,118muskrats,4 mink,6 fisher 23 beaver , 10 otter,4 bobcat
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