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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741023
01/23/20 11:36 AM
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I'd be willing to bet the Wisconsin Bowhunters Association is behind the growing restrictions on crossbows. To the diehards, crossbows aren't bows.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741082
01/23/20 12:08 PM
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muskrat and tlguy got this right

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741089
01/23/20 12:14 PM
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With my shoulders being the way they are, the crossbow IS my only bow of choice. Take hunting the rut away and I'm done bowhunting. Done bowhunting and I'm done buying a Patron's license. I'm sure I'm not alone in that mindset.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741137
01/23/20 12:54 PM
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It was NRB member Kaz that has pushed for Xbow restrictions and this is his latest push. WI Bow Hunters Association is right there with him. Like said previously let a good thing stay. Xbows have brought so many new participants in to the hunting community but that seems lost in the discussion.

Dave


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741159
01/23/20 01:29 PM
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WE the Xbow hunters killed more bucks then the other archery group and they don't like it. The WI bow hunters think those bucks belong to them..
In just about 100% of the time your doctor will give you a pass so you will be able to use the Xbow no matter what the dick headed bow hunters say.


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741166
01/23/20 01:38 PM
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I use a traditional compound bow and I plan to switch to a crossbow when that time arrives. Archery Season should be whatever method you desire, Long Bow, Recurve, Compound, or Crossbow.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: The Beav] #6741167
01/23/20 01:39 PM
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And we thing Washington is where all the dirty politics is played! Are we ignorant or apathetic? We call the ARs and the antis morons and ignorant and brainwashed and lets just say they are all those. How do we want to classify deliberate ways to take away rights when done by so called fellow outdoors persons? The lesson we should all learn here is that those with political motivations strive to get into those positions and they can and do impact all of us, it just matters I guess which egotistical demagogue we want to follow.

Bryce

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741217
01/23/20 02:23 PM
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we in WI no longer need a "pass" from the doctor now kids , women , over 65 and everyone else can just purchase a crossbow license or for a few dollars upgrade the standard archery license.

DNR says Deer need shot , sets numbers , we should hunt till we reach the numbers or get to spring.

bow hunters have lobbied for longer and longer season , the don't like extra gun season , they don't like xbow

the fact of the matter is they hang out looking for perfect antlers far to much and they need to put up or shut up on the numbers.

it is not effective to heard management to give 4 months to a method of harvest not putting up numbers.

I think a private lands only antler-less season Oct 15 to the 31 muzzle loader or just run Muzzle loader season till January 5, something to encourage numbers in high population areas. it does nothing if you give away unlimited free tags and people have one or two weeks of bad weather post rut to use them.


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741258
01/23/20 02:44 PM
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It isn’t a matter of good or bad Weather or what season you put in place. We the private land owners around here
Will not use the Ridiculous amount of tags they give out to dwindle our deer herd away any farther. Everyone obviously has different opinions on population and how the season should be structured.
I personally would love to see wi have the rifle season the same time as Iowa but for 9 days straight after
The rut has dwindled down. But I would also like to see apr’s and a limited season on crossguns for people who aren’t disabled or over 65 and I would like to see registration back in person with attached tags.

Last edited by NE Wildlife; 01/23/20 02:45 PM.


Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741260
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But If The WBA shortens the Xbow season then you will still be able to hunt during the regular archery season If your 65 or have a doctors pass. They can't take that away from you.

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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: NE Wildlife] #6741263
01/23/20 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
. . . But I would also like to see apr’s and a limited season on crossguns for people who aren’t disabled or over 65 and I would like to see registration back in person with attached tags.


What's a crossgun?

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741268
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Yes 65 or older or disabled would have a regular archery license
Lol it has a scope and a trigger it’s a gun

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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: NE Wildlife] #6741288
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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
Yes 65 or older or disabled would have a regular archery license
Lol it has a scope and a trigger it’s a gun


Ah . . . elitist mentality.

So, a trigger release is technically not a trigger? Or it is a trigger? Then all of the bowhunters using trigger releases are actually using guns?

And if it had a peep sight instead of a scope then it would not be a gun? Or if a fella put a scope on a bow then it would become a gun?

Interesting.

Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741297
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Lol you got it! I just think a able bodied person sitting in a box blind with a a crossgun shouldn’t be allowed
The same seasons as a archery hunter. Same reason to have a shorter and separate rifle season.



Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741367
01/23/20 04:24 PM
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it seems they are discussing a 19 day gun season as an option.


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Eagleye] #6741370
01/23/20 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
I use a traditional compound bow and I plan to switch to a crossbow when that time arrives. Archery Season should be whatever method you desire, Long Bow, Recurve, Compound, or Crossbow.

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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: NE Wildlife] #6741373
01/23/20 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
Lol you got it! I just think a able bodied person sitting in a box blind with a a crossgun shouldn’t be allowed
The same seasons as a archery hunter. Same reason to have a shorter and separate rifle season.


I think muzzle loader season should run parallel archery cross bow and we call the whole thing primitive. I think in one season we would reach harvest goals

if your on the ground you should wear an all orange hat or 50% blaze orange vest minimum in a stand a 144sq inches of orange on any public land.


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: Green Bay] #6741409
01/23/20 04:59 PM
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So my nine year old needs to be limited to October and late season archery because she uses a crossbow? I get folks infatuation with the shift in harvest but....

Shortening the crossbow season will have no impact on stopping the shift in harvest from gun to bow IMO. Take a look at the chart on page 8. https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Hunt/documents/WeaponUseReport.pdf

This shift in harvest started long before xbows and it really didn't change the trajectory once legalized. The only real shot it has to be successful is if continues to drive folks away from hunting, but then again, is it really successful? We just robbed Peter to pay Paul so compound bow hunters better be ready to give up some of their season too.

Take a look at page 9. Only 10,000 hunters bag two bucks a year. So if the vast majority only shoot one or less bucks a year, why wouldn't more folks shift to bow hunting since the season is longer, weather is nicer, and deer are moving more naturally. Compound bows have made huge strides and becoming proficient is pretty easy for folks that have the time and physical body strength. Plus, bow hunting plays well to gun hunters new found love of a sedentary lifestyle.


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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: WIMarshRAT] #6741493
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Hunters need to quit arguing amongst themselves about things like this because there’s large amount of libtards in Madison and Milwaukee that would love to see a division in the hunting ranks. I’m referring to the choice of weapon during bow season. And btw. Me and my kids use long bow and recurves most of the time

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Re: WI Gun Deer Thread [Re: NE Wildlife] #6741506
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Originally Posted by NE Wildlife
It isn’t a matter of good or bad Weather or what season you put in place. We the private land owners around here
Will not use the Ridiculous amount of tags they give out to dwindle our deer herd away any farther. Everyone obviously has different opinions on population and how the season should be structured.
I personally would love to see wi have the rifle season the same time as Iowa but for 9 days straight after
The rut has dwindled down. But I would also like to see apr’s and a limited season on crossguns for people who aren’t disabled or over 65 and I would like to see registration back in person with attached tags.


APR's stink and we don't need them here in WI. We are one of the better big hunting states and the history books prove it.


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