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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Boco] #6742438
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Originally Posted by Boco
That's why they make emergency brakes.
Lack of mtc?


The e brake on that truck is next to worthless. As required by law, all my vehicles are inspected annually.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742444
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Have you ever tried stopping a 6000 pound truck with just the emergency brake? I’m guessing not, otherwise you would not have made your ignorant statement Bobo.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742452
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Do they use a lot of salt on the roads there? When I lived in the Chicago area, the used so much salt the roads would get crusty, and you could taste it in the air driving down the highway. I was doing a full brake and fuel line replacement job every other week. Now in Nebraska we don't use nearly as much salt, and I can probably count on both hands the number of brake lines I've replaced in 10 years, and I've never had to do a full brake and fuel line replacement job here.

And yes, emergency brakes are more correctly called parking brakes, they're really just for holding your car still, not for stopping.

Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742465
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Yeah, lots of salt, mostly liquid anymore.

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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: loosegoose] #6742473
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
emergency brakes are more correctly called parking brakes, they're really just for holding your car still, not for stopping.

Correct. Plus , I hate some of the new cars that have a push button instead of a lever/pedal and cable.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742480
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As a matter of fact I did stop a loaded 11,000 lb railroad truck with the emergency brake once.
And who is maintaining your truck-a displaced Mexican rickshaw puller,lol.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742488
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A handbrake is also used for high speed cornering especially in rally racing to lock the back wheels at the correct time to create drag at the rear end.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Boco] #6742496
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Originally Posted by Boco
A handbrake is also used for high speed cornering especially in rally racing to lock the back wheels at the correct time to create drag at the rear end.

Or bootleg turns.....done a lot of them......lol

Great for drifting too , gets ya started in the slide , then on the gas.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742509
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You know it's kinda funny , last car I had with a single master cylinder was my '66 Stang. They mandated dual master cylinders starting 1/1/68 so almost all cars made to be sold in Sept '67 onwards had them. I've had bunches of brake lines bust on cars I've owned and ones I've worked on. The point of going to a dual master cylinder was for safety as if you blow a line with a single master cylinder , you have zero brakes.

But dual master cylinders work like crap with a broken line. You would think you would have a lot more braking action with half a set of brakes but you don't. Even with properly adjusted brakes , at best you have 30% with the fronts only , less with the backs only. I thought the whole idea was to give you half a set of brakes. It's not even close. Parking brakes were more stout back then too , could use them in an emergency , now kinda just good for parking.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Boco] #6742634
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Originally Posted by Boco
As a matter of fact I did stop a loaded 11,000 lb railroad truck with the emergency brake once.
And who is maintaining your truck-a displaced Mexican rickshaw puller,lol.


So did I. It just took several hundred feet. But you stopped yours on a dime right? You’re full of crap.


Originally Posted by Boco
A handbrake is also used for high speed cornering especially in rally racing to lock the back wheels at the correct time to create drag at the rear end.


Is that what you were doing with the railroad truck?



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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: pcr2] #6742685
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Originally Posted by pcr2
Originally Posted by CoonsBane
I experienced something similar this summer.

I was backing a boat into the lake, hit the brakes hard to slide the boat off the trailer and the pedal sunk to the floor. I stomped on the emergency brake and nothing happened, I shifted into 1st and hit the gas and no luck. By that time the water was 2-3 inches below the windows so I just shut off the engine quick.

Brake line blew...no brakes.

On the plus side of things, the insurance company totaled the truck, paid me way more than it was worth and I'm driving a great new truck.

pictures or video??


No, but if you'd been at Lyman on the 4th of July you'd have seen it.

Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742687
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thats cold water too.









Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742696
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I’d question the wife about this first! whistle That D50 should of stopped, not on a dime but stopped with enough pressure mine will.

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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742710
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Lugnuts a bit of a drama queen,he should have stuck his foot out the door and stopped like Fred Flintstone.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742714
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An Amish man never has these problems...


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742724
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First thing I'd check is to see if your wife recently increased the amount of life insurance on you wink cry

Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742729
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Aren't most older vehicles equipped with cable operated rear brakes? I've used them when my brakes have failed. Not perfect but because it's a secondary system I wouldn't expect it to be.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Law Dog] #6742731
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
I’d question the wife about this first! whistle That D50 should of stopped, not on a dime but stopped with enough pressure mine will.


The Ram stopped okay. I was way out in a field when I lost brakes, not going that fast. After the brakes had failed I drove it ot to the road and was able to stop it by using the hand brake. Pedal wasn't doing much at all.

I just talked to my mechanic, driver side upper control arm tore off the frame and that's what took out a brake line.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: FairbanksLS] #6742733
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Originally Posted by gray dog
Aren't most older vehicles equipped with cable operated rear brakes? I've used them when my brakes have failed. Not perfect but because it's a secondary system I wouldn't expect it to be.


My cargo van has a cable operated parking brake on the rear drum brakes. That i how I eventually got it stopped.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: pcr2] #6742737
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Originally Posted by pcr2
thats cold water too.


That's what my buddy said when we were peeing off the dock at Lyman. I said, "It's deep too." laugh


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