Re: White sugar and cancer
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Here is a couple thoughts , Jack Lalane lived to be 98 years old. The man ate like a goat. Ate everything healthy he could think of , exercised like a fanatic. He admitted to eating less than 10 candy bars in his whole life.
George Burns drank , smoked and chased younger women. He lived to 100. Bob Hope lived to be 100.
There is a HUGE amount of disinformation out there in the media about diet and food. A lot of it is put out by food companies out for your dollar. Remember when bottled water first got popular , they were telling you that you needed 6-8 glasses a day and soda , coffee and other drinks didn't count. That made the bottled water companies grab large amounts of market share that they still own. However a lot of that has been debunked. Even though soda with sugar or artificial sweeteners may not be as good as plain water , it still hydrates your body. There was a push not too long ago to sway people away from high fructose corn syrup. Like it was the most horrible food invented. Bet the sugar companies pushed that. The suppliers of high fructose corn syrup came out with a great ad to counteract it . Two women talking , one is telling the other how bad high fructose corn syrup is , the other one replies well they make it out of corn. How bad is corn for you ? Orange juice is pushed as a healthy drink , it has more fructose per oz. than soda , but minimal vitamins. Yes , it is better than soda by only by a very tiny bit.
Bet you know somebody who buys gluten free foods but doesn't have celiac disease. There is no need to buy this unless you are affected by celiac disease , it doesn't make you any healthier. Plus it is real pricey.
Ever notice , oh , this food is bad , then a short period later it is good for you. Milk , butter , eggs are typical examples. Take a good look at the USDA food pyramid. It has gotten revised a couple times. Why ? It has been proven that earlier editions of it were swayed by farmers/industries to push certain food groups to bolster sales. One version of the food pyramid not too long ago pushed lots of servings of breads and grains. They have toned that down a bit lately. Proven fact the earlier version was slanted to push grains for the people who sell make/sell them. Everything in moderation , an active lifestyle and MOST importantly great genetics is probably your best bet. Ever seen a person who smoked like a chimney but lived to 100+ and never got cancer. Genetics. Then there is the other side of the coin , those that died very young with cancer but lived a very healthy lifestyle. X2 My grandmother smoked lucky strikes and drank Jim beam, she had 14 children, lived to be 96. She had a hard life by today’s standards and was very poor. She outlived two husbands and lived longer than all her children. My mother is the only child still living at the age of 85 but she is terminally ill. I have no idea what or who to believe anymore.
The bitterness of poor quality last a lot longer than the sweetness of low price
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Re: White sugar and cancer
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01/24/20 12:01 PM
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Quote - Mayo clinic
Myth: People with cancer shouldn't eat sugar, since it can cause cancer to grow faster. Fact: Sugar doesn't make cancer grow faster. All cells, including cancer cells, depend on blood sugar (glucose) for energy. But giving more sugar to cancer cells doesn't speed their growth. Likewise, depriving cancer cells of sugar doesn't slow their growth.
This misconception may be based in part on a misunderstanding of positron emission tomography (PET) scans, which use a small amount of radioactive tracer — typically a form of glucose. All tissues in your body absorb some of this tracer, but tissues that are using more energy — including cancer cells — absorb greater amounts. For this reason, some people have concluded that cancer cells grow faster on sugar. But this isn't true.
However, there is some evidence that consuming large amounts of sugar is associated with an increased risk of certain cancers, including esophageal cancer. It can also lead to weight gain and increase the risk of obesity and diabetes, which may increase the risk of cancer.
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Re: White sugar and cancer
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01/24/20 12:06 PM
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Quote - Mayo clinic
Myth: People with cancer shouldn't eat sugar, since it can cause cancer to grow faster. Fact: Sugar doesn't make cancer grow faster. All cells, including cancer cells, depend on blood sugar (glucose) for energy. But giving more sugar to cancer cells doesn't speed their growth. Likewise, depriving cancer cells of sugar doesn't slow their growth.
This misconception may be based in part on a misunderstanding of positron emission tomography (PET) scans, which use a small amount of radioactive tracer — typically a form of glucose. All tissues in your body absorb some of this tracer, but tissues that are using more energy — including cancer cells — absorb greater amounts. For this reason, some people have concluded that cancer cells grow faster on sugar. But this isn't true.
However, there is some evidence that consuming large amounts of sugar is associated with an increased risk of certain cancers, including esophageal cancer. It can also lead to weight gain and increase the risk of obesity and diabetes, which may increase the risk of cancer. its not true,you can copy and paste all day but those of us with the disease and having undergone test to do with it know better. Why do you always try to debunk everything..??
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Re: White sugar and cancer
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01/24/20 12:09 PM
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Quote cancer.gov
Will eating sugar make my cancer worse?
No. Although research has shown that cancer cells consume more sugar (glucose) than normal cells, no studies have shown that eating sugar will make your cancer worse or that, if you stop eating sugar, your cancer will shrink or disappear. However, a high-sugar diet may contribute to excess weight gain, and obesity is associated with an increased risk of developing several types of cancer. For more information, see the NCI fact sheet on Obesity and Cancer.
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Re: White sugar and cancer
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Quote cancer.gov
Will eating sugar make my cancer worse?
No. Although research has shown that cancer cells consume more sugar (glucose) than normal cells, no studies have shown that eating sugar will make your cancer worse or that, if you stop eating sugar, your cancer will shrink or disappear. However, a high-sugar diet may contribute to excess weight gain, and obesity is associated with an increased risk of developing several types of cancer. For more information, see the NCI fact sheet on Obesity and Cancer. I am not a doctor, however these are reputational sources. American cancer society has the same thing on their site too. Believe in whatever you want.
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Re: White sugar and cancer
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01/24/20 03:10 PM
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I have been fighting prostate cancer since 2007 with the diagnoses first being stage 2C cancer. I was in remission for many years with my PSA count going down to 0.0 three years ago. However, since then the PSA count has been rising slowly and the cancer may have come back and I am still in the monitoring stage due to its potential slow growth. I also had a pre-cancerous polyp in my last colonoscopy. I just wanted to see if I can do anything myself to help fight it instead of just playing a waiting game and getting screenings. I read a lot about sugar playing a roll but could never verify it. I would like to quote something from a book called Anti Cancer written by a Dr. David Servan-Schreiber, MD. , PhD. Dr. Schreiber developed a very aggressive form of brain cancer when he was 30 years old and was given only a short time to live but eventually lived 20 years before he passed. When alive, he followed his own teachings in the book. It was not alternative medicine but a complimentary system of things to do in addition to chemotherapy and radiation he was receiving. A quote from the book. “When we eat sugar or white flour - foods with a high glycemic index - blood levels of glucose rise rapidly. The body immediately releases a dose of insulin to enable the glucose to enter cells. The secretion of insulin is accompanied by the release of another molecule, called IGF (insulinlike growth factor), whose role is to stimulate cell growth. In short, sugar nourishes tissues and makes them grow faster. Furthermore, insulin and IGF have another effect in common: They promote the factors of inflammation, which, as we saw in chapter 4, also stimulate cell growth and act, in turn, as fertilizer for tumors.”
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Re: White sugar and cancer
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01/24/20 03:22 PM
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I have been fighting prostate cancer since 2007 with the diagnoses first being stage 2C cancer. I was in remission for many years with my PSA count going down to 0.0 three years ago. However, since then the PSA count has been rising slowly and the cancer may have come back and I am still in the monitoring stage due to its potential slow growth. I also had a pre-cancerous polyp in my last colonoscopy. I just wanted to see if I can do anything myself to help fight it instead of just playing a waiting game and getting screenings. I read a lot about sugar playing a roll but could never verify it. I would like to quote something from a book called Anti Cancer written by a Dr. David Servan-Schreiber, MD. , PhD. Dr. Schreiber developed a very aggressive form of brain cancer when he was 30 years old and was given only a short time to live but eventually lived 20 years before he passed. When alive, he followed his own teachings in the book. It was not alternative medicine but a complimentary system of things to do in addition to chemotherapy and radiation he was receiving. A quote from the book. “When we eat sugar or white flour - foods with a high glycemic index - blood levels of glucose rise rapidly. The body immediately releases a dose of insulin to enable the glucose to enter cells. The secretion of insulin is accompanied by the release of another molecule, called IGF (insulinlike growth factor), whose role is to stimulate cell growth. In short, sugar nourishes tissues and makes them grow faster. Furthermore, insulin and IGF have another effect in common: They promote the factors of inflammation, which, as we saw in chapter 4, also stimulate cell growth and act, in turn, as fertilizer for tumors.”
Ive been fighting leukemia since 2010 (cancer in blood,bone marrow and lymphnodes,incurable type to date...like you I do anything and everything to fight it. I lived in s.e. asia for 9 yrs after the diagnosis(4 before yrs ago) The cancer(we use white count to monitor)grew extremely slow there due to(I believe diet,climate,and holistic meds my oncologist (ohio state university) and my gp told me whatever I was doing there I was doing something right. Its increasing but im a fighting. Happy to discuss with you in pm or if u want to call me.
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