Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: Trapper7]
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01/27/20 04:16 PM
01/27/20 04:16 PM
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I'd sooner skin and flesh a beaver than a coyote any day. Too much fussing around with a coyote. Besides that, some of them stink like a dog that rolled in something rotten. I like the smell of castor. It is an unfair world where diseased, parasite infested long legged opossums are worth 5 times as much as beautiful well groomed beavers.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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01/27/20 10:32 PM
01/27/20 10:32 PM
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It comes down to what you're comfortable with. Once you learn to do it a certain way any other way will seem clumsy. I always felt like skinning and then fleshing was redundant. Clean skinning does both things at the same time. I no doubt would feel differently if I had learned to rough skin and flesh on a beam.
One can argue about which is more time efficient but I don't honestly think there is that much difference for those that are experienced in either way. I average about 15 minutes to clean skin a blanket and about another 15 minutes to board it. I'm sure there are lots of guys faster than me. Yeah I hear you on what we're comfortable with. I need to at least try clean skinning beaver a few times to see if it grows on me. I've only done roughly 30 beaver in the last 2 seasons but every one of those was rough skinned then put on a beam. We will see if I adapt to the change or stick to the way I've learned.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: Dirt]
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01/27/20 10:58 PM
01/27/20 10:58 PM
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It is an unfair world where diseased, parasite infested long legged opossums are worth 5 times as much as beautiful well groomed beavers. This is a very, very true statement. Neighbors dog got into the fur shed today and was caught red handed carrying away a beaver pelt I was thawing out. No damage done but I was glad it wasn't a $70 coyote. A finished beaver pelt is one of the most beautiful furs available.
Real name Eric The sharpest hammer in the box of crayons.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: Wild_Idaho]
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01/28/20 09:48 AM
01/28/20 09:48 AM
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So are you clean skinners doing a bunch of touch up when you board?
Most of my beaver trapping was done away from home and clean skinning wasn't feasible. So I got to where In most cases I could rough skin a beaver In 5 min flat.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: The Beav]
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01/28/20 10:48 AM
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So are you clean skinners doing a bunch of touch up when you board?
Most of my beaver trapping was done away from home and clean skinning wasn't feasible. So I got to where In most cases I could rough skin a beaver In 5 min flat. Years ago when testing our body grip setter with my buddy Robbie in Canada we had a pile of Beaver at the bottom of a steep portage. From his pack, he took a set of sharpening sticks, a Victorinox skinning knife, a utility knife with hook blade, and two large fish hooks with barbs pinched down and light wire attached to eyes. He flopped a Beaver on a fallen log and made opening cut with hook blade. He wired the hooks to brush behind the log and used them to hold the carcass where he wanted as he worked his way clean skinning around the Bev. I watched in amazement as he finished the first one. He looked over his shoulder and said, "I can undress these girls if you wanna get our gear up over the hill". I made one trip with the canoe and one more with the gear. When I got back he was done with all but the castor removal. I think it was 5 or 6 Beavers, I couldn't believe how simple and matter of fact he made the task. A task that at the time would have consumed most of my weekend to do rough skinning and fleshing. LOL When I told him how I rough skinned he said " why would we wanna pack all that extra weight up the hill?" Over the next few days I learned to clean skin and never went back to rough skinning. To each his own. I think the biggest lesson I got at the time was to not make to big of deal out of the skinning. He did it just as matter of fact as if he were setting a 330 in a run, it was just one more step. No more or less important than any other in the process. Before that trip I dreaded the task, since its no big deal. Here's a pic of a pile of clean skinned Bev's.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: Wild_Idaho]
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01/28/20 10:51 AM
01/28/20 10:51 AM
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great pic.
most of mine have been for buyers and thats how it was done.
its a no right or wrong way thing.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: Trapset]
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01/28/20 01:07 PM
01/28/20 01:07 PM
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So are you clean skinners doing a bunch of touch up when you board?
Most of my beaver trapping was done away from home and clean skinning wasn't feasible. So I got to where In most cases I could rough skin a beaver In 5 min flat. Years ago when testing our body grip setter with my buddy Robbie in Canada we had a pile of Beaver at the bottom of a steep portage. From his pack, he took a set of sharpening sticks, a Victorinox skinning knife, a utility knife with hook blade, and two large fish hooks with barbs pinched down and light wire attached to eyes. He flopped a Beaver on a fallen log and made opening cut with hook blade. He wired the hooks to brush behind the log and used them to hold the carcass where he wanted as he worked his way clean skinning around the Bev. I watched in amazement as he finished the first one. He looked over his shoulder and said, "I can undress these girls if you wanna get our gear up over the hill". I made one trip with the canoe and one more with the gear. When I got back he was done with all but the castor removal. I think it was 5 or 6 Beavers, I couldn't believe how simple and matter of fact he made the task. A task that at the time would have consumed most of my weekend to do rough skinning and fleshing. LOL When I told him how I rough skinned he said " why would we wanna pack all that extra weight up the hill?" Over the next few days I learned to clean skin and never went back to rough skinning. To each his own. I think the biggest lesson I got at the time was to not make to big of deal out of the skinning. He did it just as matter of fact as if he were setting a 330 in a run, it was just one more step. No more or less important than any other in the process. Before that trip I dreaded the task, since its no big deal. Here's a pic of a pile of clean skinned Bev's. My first thought when I saw that pic was Global warming!
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: Wild_Idaho]
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01/28/20 01:35 PM
01/28/20 01:35 PM
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When we had beaver to tote up the hill or back In a way's we just gutted them. Just grab them by the rib cage and go. Know I would be lucky just get myself up the hill. LOL
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: The Beav]
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01/28/20 01:53 PM
01/28/20 01:53 PM
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So are you clean skinners doing a bunch of touch up when you board? Yes I believe most "clean skinners"do a bit of touch up when boarding the pelt. This picture is an example of what I consider a clean skinned beaver ready for final 2-3 minute touch up and trimming.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: Wild_Idaho]
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01/28/20 04:05 PM
01/28/20 04:05 PM
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The best way to learn clean skinning(or any other method) is to watch an experienced person do it and have him explain the technique as he goes along.Then have a go and he can critique your effort so you dont make mistakes that can become ingrained.He will also explain the tools and how to maintain them properly so efficiency is maximized.Then once you have the proper tools and technique down pat,speed will come with repetition Stuff you cant learn from reading or on your own. The two main things for fast and efficient cleanskinning is a razor sharp knife (and the knowledge how to keep it that way)and a feather weight hold on the knife.
Last edited by Boco; 01/28/20 04:11 PM.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
[Re: Wild_Idaho]
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01/28/20 06:35 PM
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Agree with Boco. The knife sharpening aspect of it is crucial to the success of the clean skinner.
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Re: Hate Fleshing Beaver
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01/28/20 08:06 PM
01/28/20 08:06 PM
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I love setting for, catching, skinning and boarding beaver. But man do I hate fleshing them. One of these days gonna have to learn how to clean skin. Not sure why this one was so troublesome but it took me an hour to flesh it. Saddle just didn't want to peel off. Also tried my hand at boarding without stencil lines for the first time. Come on down and Jerry will teach ya how to clean skin
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