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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750036
01/29/20 10:32 PM
01/29/20 10:32 PM
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MN, USA
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Some points in this, the public oftentimes reports these situations to the DNR, being intimidated with arrest in Minnesota. In North Dakota it is more common for the dead wolf to find a hole to bury itself in. In South Dakota, they tend to call the Game and Fish which pretends it was an accident and confiscates the problem.

As for the genetic percentages, the evaluation has been one dimensional, thinking of one breeding. Pups do reach maturity and do breed which would create a greater percentage of coyote. My neighbor had a wolf dog a number of years ago, until one of my other neighbors decided to administer lead vaccine.
Lastly, again in one dimensional, those posting are evaluating this as a natural breeding. This may have been a "pet" which escaped or was set free to run wild. People are always "donating" things to the wild, from horses to snakes. My brother's friend got a load of "wild" horses off the range. As they were doing the round up, they had left the trailer door open, and one of the horses ran up and loaded itself. Someone had dumped their pet horse out on the range, and the guy said it was a pretty good saddle horse.

I hope that everyone here as I did, left feedback when the public comments were open, to remove the wolf from the endangered list so it's numbers can be reduced. We are farmland and prairie hills here, and wolves are commonly reported. No one has mentioned this, but the old propaganda was that red fox and coyotes do not mix, but the last years here, fox have come back. Fox are evolving, just like these hybrids with human help are being evolved.

Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: walleyed] #6750038
01/29/20 10:32 PM
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Northern Maine
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Originally Posted by Bruce T
But isn't k-9 a reference to a dog?


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: walleyed] #6750043
01/29/20 10:36 PM
01/29/20 10:36 PM
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USA MN
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One thing I do know is that game wardens aren't

geneticists or wildlife biologists and that the State of Minnesota

doesn't have the dedicated funds to perform a genetic test

every time somebody whacks a large coyote.

Cat catcher has probably hit closer to the truth.

I still say it's FAKE NEWS and bad precedent

to use that word that should not be spoken by trappers........EVER !!!

w[/quote]
I think your nuts. If you don't like the post have the Boss remove it .Again I don't care and I am not interested in your theory ,s COYWOLF COYWOLF How about wyote just a little wolf in it


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750055
01/29/20 10:43 PM
01/29/20 10:43 PM
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Waterville Minnesota
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So if dogs, coyotes and wolves can all interbreed and have fertile offspring, doesn't that make them all the same species? Scientifically speaking. The differences would be at the subspecies level. The coyote is just a mini wolf. The dog is a domesticated wolf.


WHO MADE THIS MESS ALL OVER MY FLOOR THE MUDTRACKER WAS HERE HE HE HE
Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750056
01/29/20 10:44 PM
01/29/20 10:44 PM
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Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
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Originally Posted by Snowpa

I think your nuts. If you don't like the post have the Boss remove it .Again I don't care and I am not interested in your theory ,s COYWOLF COYWOLF How about wyote just a little wolf in it


Nothing wrong with your post except the use of that word.

I've given my opinion just like everyone else.

If you don't want to hear opinions different from from your own,

don't post controversial stuff, or hit the ignore button.

Beyond that I'll stick with my contention it's a bad word for trappers.

Carry on.

w


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750077
01/29/20 11:03 PM
01/29/20 11:03 PM
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If a tiger and a lion breed together, what is the offspring called?

Anyways, just a pic of me and my Wolf!

[Linked Image]


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750078
01/29/20 11:04 PM
01/29/20 11:04 PM
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Minnesota
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Hmmm...both look wolfish


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750081
01/29/20 11:09 PM
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grin grin


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750086
01/29/20 11:16 PM
01/29/20 11:16 PM
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MN
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Seems like pretty basic genetics to me.


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Jurassic Park] #6750090
01/29/20 11:23 PM
01/29/20 11:23 PM
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Ashley county Ar.
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This is not my opinion, but read just a few days ago some wildlife studies show the eastern coyotes are getting bigger. Mostly in the northeast. The one in the picture sure looks like a wolf.

Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: mudtracker] #6750103
01/29/20 11:36 PM
01/29/20 11:36 PM
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Champaign County, Ohio.
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Originally Posted by mudtracker
So if dogs, coyotes and wolves can all interbreed and have fertile offspring, doesn't that make them all the same species? Scientifically speaking. The differences would be at the subspecies level. The coyote is just a mini wolf. The dog is a domesticated wolf.


Several species of jackals are cross fertile with dogs, wolves and coyotes too.

Keith

Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750109
01/29/20 11:39 PM
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NW Ohio
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I don't know about getting bigger, they've always been big since they moved into this area. I've got a picture here somewhere with one I called in years ago that caused a ruckus. Big long legged coyote, at the time most around here didn't even think we had any.


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: 160user] #6750125
01/29/20 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 160user
Seems like pretty basic genetics to me.

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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750128
01/29/20 11:55 PM
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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750130
01/29/20 11:56 PM
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confused^^


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750213
01/30/20 01:28 AM
01/30/20 01:28 AM
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mn north of blakely
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
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This coyote was shot in a group hunt about a mile from my brothers a couple miles north of Zumbro Falls MN Weight confirmed DNR 75 # 80% coyote 20% gray wolf Guess it could have been a bit of trouble if it was more wolf





If a guy starts shooting coyotes that look like that one up here he'll find himself in jail in a short hurry. The guy should stay away from the casinos 'cause he burnt up all his luck.

Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Boco] #6750218
01/30/20 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
The wolf huggers will be all over that claiming a new rare subspecies and call for a trapping ban on all coyotes and wolves to protect it.


As they have in Ontario


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Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750227
01/30/20 02:29 AM
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N.W. Iowa
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Nice coyote

Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750236
01/30/20 03:27 AM
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Philippines,,ohio
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30 plus yrs ago they were like this here. [Linked Image]

Re: Confirmed Coywolf [Re: Snowpa] #6750303
01/30/20 08:08 AM
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kill em all,let god sort it out.


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