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Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6754870
02/02/20 01:55 PM
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So it’s a Grey Fox with black on its back?

Re: Cross Fox [Re: Wanna Be] #6754872
02/02/20 01:56 PM
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Contrary to common belief, a "cross fox" such as this isn't a mix between a red and a grey or anything of the sort. It is a genetic melonistic variation. Similar to a grey squirrel that is black. I am getting a full body mount done. Didn't weigh it but the taxidermist said (responding to the size of it) that we may be limited as to which forms are commercially available that will fit it without modification. So it's a big critter.

Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6754887
02/02/20 02:07 PM
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Two red foxes can produce a litter that includes a silver and/or cross foxes or basstards.It all depends on which of the recessive genes the parents carry.
They are all the same species.
Color variations of the red fox are more common the further north you go.And the northern fox are notably larger than those further south.


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Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6754889
02/02/20 02:11 PM
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So that’s a red?

Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6754925
02/02/20 03:04 PM
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Man!!! That is beautiful!!! Congrats

Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755166
02/02/20 07:15 PM
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Wow what a great looking fox! Congrats... (I saw one once and never did catch it or hear of anybody catching it in the area)


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Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755167
02/02/20 07:17 PM
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Very cool. Congrats!


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Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755295
02/02/20 08:57 PM
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They come in a few variations.

Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755296
02/02/20 08:58 PM
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Beauty cross, how common are they down there?

Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755304
02/02/20 09:05 PM
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If it's a lot bigger then the typical red fox you find in the area I would think there is a good chance it is an escapee or the progeny of an escapee.
I used to trap native fox in the Cascade Mountains of Washington, they're called Cascade Fox not surprisingly. About one-third of them are either cross, or black phase.


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Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755325
02/02/20 09:16 PM
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Sure is purrdy!


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Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755572
02/02/20 11:06 PM
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Red, cross, silver, and black are all color phases of the same species. Locally, I find about 25% of the foxes are colors other than red. A few years ago, I saw a den with a coal-black vixen, a black kit, a cross kit, and three red kits. One of the coolest fox furs I've ever seen was a Samson cross. It was a uniform cream color except for a distinct chocolate colored cross about an inch to two inches wide running from elbow to elbow, and from between the ears to about mid-tail.

Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755578
02/02/20 11:11 PM
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A buddy of mine caught a sampson cross back in the 70's-it was just like you described.He had a rug made out of it-he still has it I believe.


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Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755584
02/02/20 11:15 PM
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Excellent catch and post a photo when the mount is done!

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Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755600
02/02/20 11:29 PM
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Beautiful fox, thanks for sharing!

Re: Cross Fox [Re: deerdragger] #6755628
02/03/20 12:07 AM
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Nice fox! I’m still hoping for a cross fox to show up in one of my traps!


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